From: Terje Barman on
Graham,

Why on earth do you still read and post to this ng? If you don't use VO -
fine, but why does it seem like you are obsessed to convince everone else to
abandon VO?

Regards,
Terje



"Graham McKechnie" <gmknospam(a)bigpond.net.au> skrev i melding
news:YkR4h.62095$rP1.30478(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >I thought VO 2.8 and Vulcan 1.0 is set to be
>> released at VODC.
>
> So whats another missed deadline. Its the norm around here.
>
> Must be fun hanging out for a pdf which describes a product that may be
> released sometime before 2008, assuming they don't miss another deadline.
>
>
>
> "Rene J. Pajaron" <rjpajaron(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1163117396.299261.122160(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> Thanks John,
>>
>> I understand the delay. I thought VO 2.8 and Vulcan 1.0 is set to be
>> released at VODC.
>>
>> I hope Vulcan at warp speed pdf is available this weekend, so that it
>> will give me a good read on somewhat boring timeline of my life--no
>> exciting new things to do but crappy process clients wants next month
>> or two. I might delay this as well because its Christmas vacation.
>>
>> A good read, but somewhat I need more!!!!
>>
>> Bye for now, got to work...
>>
>> Rene
>>
>> Ayon kay John Parker:
>>> Dateline - 21:30 Cologne Germany
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As we reach the end of the second day of the German VODC conference, I
>>> would
>>> like to share with you all an update on the news.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This has been another great conference and the organising team have done
>>> a
>>> wonderful job. There has always been plenty to see in each of the time
>>> slots
>>> and the hardest decision was choosing between the sessions. As a
>>> conference
>>> organiser myself, I know just how hard the team have had to work to make
>>> this conference as good as it is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the opening session the Development Team presented the current status
>>> of
>>> both Visual Objects and Vulcan.NET.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert van der Hulst showed the current build of VO2.8, which focuses on
>>> making the IDE a more productive environment. As well as the many bug
>>> fixes,
>>> this new version features an "all new" source code editor, debugger and
>>> error browser. VOPS subscribers will soon be working with the new
>>> version
>>> and general availability is anticipated to be the first quarter of 2007.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Next up was Paul Piko who demonstrated the Vulcan.Net Transporter. This
>>> utility is designed to achieve two goals. The first is to provide a
>>> series
>>> of code improvements that are applied directly to the source code in a
>>> selected VO repository. These improvements arise from the continued
>>> tightening of the language, which assists the compiler in producing a
>>> more
>>> robust output. The second goal is to extract the entities from the VO
>>> project and automatically create a Vulcan.NET Visual Studio solution.
>>> The
>>> Transporter also takes the proprietary VO window entity and produces
>>> source
>>> code that uses the .NET framework classes so that it can be edited using
>>> the
>>> Visual Studio form designer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Last of all, Don Caton presented the current status of Vulcan.NET. The
>>> most
>>> recent milestones include the support for codeblocks and the macro
>>> compiler.
>>> Vulcan's implementation of macro support has gone beyond the limitations
>>> that are in Visual Objects. In the new compiler, any public function,
>>> class
>>> or class member can be invoked, as well as any .NET framework call, any
>>> Vulcan runtime function, or any method in another class library. General
>>> availability of Vulcan.NET is expected during the second quarter of
>>> 2007.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All attendees were handed a bound printed copy of "Vulcan.NET At Warp
>>> Speed",
>>> the 173 page getting started guide. A PDF version of this book will be
>>> available to everyone for download. The URL will be announced here in
>>> the
>>> near future.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Over these two days I have talked with several attendees who have been
>>> very
>>> excited about the Vulcan.NET applications that they have already
>>> created.
>>> These ranged from a mobile device application accessing SQLMobile right
>>> up
>>> to a new 30,000 line desktop application.
>>>
>>> Finally, on behalf of the Development Team and all of the attendees, I
>>> would
>>> like to take the opportunity to thank the conference organisers, Sonja
>>> Schletterer, Rudiger Kardel and team leader, Dieter Crispien who have
>>> done
>>> such a great job.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, that's all for now,
>>>
>>> John
>>
>
>


From: E?!k V!sser on
Thanks Dieter, Rudiker , Sonja and al others envolved for the very god
conference!
What amazed me most was all the new stuff showed by the speakers, that gives
a lot of faith for the future.

Erik


"John Parker" <john(a)ukgts.com> schreef in bericht
news:4rhh2hFr80tgU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> Dateline - 21:30 Cologne Germany
>
>
>
> As we reach the end of the second day of the German VODC conference, I
> would like to share with you all an update on the news.
>
>
>
> This has been another great conference and the organising team have done a
> wonderful job. There has always been plenty to see in each of the time
> slots and the hardest decision was choosing between the sessions. As a
> conference organiser myself, I know just how hard the team have had to
> work to make this conference as good as it is.
>
>
>
> In the opening session the Development Team presented the current status
> of both Visual Objects and Vulcan.NET.
>
>
>
> Robert van der Hulst showed the current build of VO2.8, which focuses on
> making the IDE a more productive environment. As well as the many bug
> fixes, this new version features an "all new" source code editor, debugger
> and error browser. VOPS subscribers will soon be working with the new
> version and general availability is anticipated to be the first quarter of
> 2007.
>
>
>
> Next up was Paul Piko who demonstrated the Vulcan.Net Transporter. This
> utility is designed to achieve two goals. The first is to provide a series
> of code improvements that are applied directly to the source code in a
> selected VO repository. These improvements arise from the continued
> tightening of the language, which assists the compiler in producing a more
> robust output. The second goal is to extract the entities from the VO
> project and automatically create a Vulcan.NET Visual Studio solution. The
> Transporter also takes the proprietary VO window entity and produces
> source code that uses the .NET framework classes so that it can be edited
> using the Visual Studio form designer.
>
>
>
> Last of all, Don Caton presented the current status of Vulcan.NET. The
> most recent milestones include the support for codeblocks and the macro
> compiler. Vulcan's implementation of macro support has gone beyond the
> limitations that are in Visual Objects. In the new compiler, any public
> function, class or class member can be invoked, as well as any .NET
> framework call, any Vulcan runtime function, or any method in another
> class library. General availability of Vulcan.NET is expected during the
> second quarter of 2007.
>
>
>
> All attendees were handed a bound printed copy of "Vulcan.NET At Warp
> Speed", the 173 page getting started guide. A PDF version of this book
> will be available to everyone for download. The URL will be announced here
> in the near future.
>
>
>
> Over these two days I have talked with several attendees who have been
> very excited about the Vulcan.NET applications that they have already
> created. These ranged from a mobile device application accessing SQLMobile
> right up to a new 30,000 line desktop application.
>
> Finally, on behalf of the Development Team and all of the attendees, I
> would like to take the opportunity to thank the conference organisers,
> Sonja Schletterer, Rudiger Kardel and team leader, Dieter Crispien who
> have done such a great job.
>
>
>
> Well, that's all for now,
>
> John
>
>
>
>


From: Meinhard Schnoor-Matriciani on
Hi John,

just returned from the Cologne, we made it out of the city at exactly 11:11
<g>

> Finally, on behalf of the Development Team and all of the attendees, I
> would like to take the opportunity to thank the conference organisers,
> Sonja Schletterer, Rudiger Kardel and team leader, Dieter Crispien who
> have done such a great job.

Yep, it was indeed a great conference and they did a perfect job ! And it
was nice to meet the crew again ! Thx to you guys too, brilliant work !
I personally haven't had so many positive feedback from attendees for years.

What I like most, was to see that you've got so great recognition inside MS,
this will help a lot in the future. Now having said that, there some other
things I really liked. The sessions have been very valuable, good topics and
lost of new ideas which already have made it to our minds. You know, to see
these apps which already -have been written in Vulcan.NET was unbelievable.
Actually it animated me to migrate my goldparser engine just to see how long
it takes and what changes I do have to make. Well, I've been doing it during
the car ride home ( when I was sitting next to R?diger while he was driving
, of course ;-) ) and I was suprised to see that I could do it in half an
hour and it worked ! That convinced me to start the big one next week. Be
prepared for something special when we'll see each other next time.

The other thing which I really liked, was that nobody takes HWMSNBA and his
friend HWMACG seriously and the people recognize which intention they have.

Would please be so kind and remember to send me the edited abstract back ?
TIA

BTW, I really like the idea about the application show we've been talking
about in the very last moment.

Enjoy the weekend GP ;-)
Regards
Meinhard



From: Meinhard Schnoor-Matriciani on
Sorry guys, please ignore this one, was meant to be sent via private eMail.


From: Carlos Rocha on
Ignore what? O:-)
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