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From: Rob Gaddi on 15 Jul 2010 12:43
On 7/15/2010 1:08 AM, Nicolas Matringe wrote:
> Hello
> I've been trying to download these 2.9GB for 3 days with numerous
> retries (thanks to the download manager, the 'resume' resulted in a
> restart from 0) and when I finally managed to get the full file it was
> corrupted.
> Now I want to order a DVD and when I click on the appropriate link on
> the web site I get redirected to the home page.
>
> Who at Xilinx wants to prevent people from using their products ?
>
> Nico

Yeah, but at least it's down from 5.5GB to 3GB. That's nearly 40% fewer
places for your download to break. More to the point, that much smaller
of a package at least implies that Xilinx is finally starting to do some
much needed housecleaning in their software. Maybe by 13 it'll start
working the way it's supposed to.

--
Rob Gaddi, Highland Technology
Email address is currently out of order
From: Anssi Saari on 15 Jul 2010 15:24
"maxascent" <maxascent(a)n_o_s_p_a_m.n_o_s_p_a_m.yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> I cant understand what was wrong with the old way of doing things i.e. just
> use your own download manager to get a zip file.

Likewise. Well, I once read some comments from some Linux distributor
which indicated almost no one uses download managers that can resume,
instead most people download files multiple times until they finally
succeed. So it makes some sense to try to push people into using a
download manager, even if it's primitive and easily avoided. But then
you have no chance to resume. And to think resuming downloads was
everyday stuff in the 1990's already...

> Since they introduced the new method I have never managed to get it
> to work. Every time I pause the download it throws up an error when
> I try to resume it.

It has often worked for me, if I deliberately stop a download to
resume later. But if something actually goes wrong, then resuming is
unlikely to work...

Altera at least does actually provide a direct link to the file if the
download manager doesn't start. Doesn't help with Xilinx, though.
From: Nicolas Matringe on 16 Jul 2010 02:38
On 15 juil, 17:21, "cfelton"
<cfelton(a)n_o_s_p_a_m.n_o_s_p_a_m.ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 01:08:51 -0700 (PDT), Nicolas Matringe
> <nic_o_...(a)msn.com> wrote:
>
> >>Hello
> >>I've been trying to download these 2.9GB for 3 days with numerous
> >>retries (thanks to the download manager, the 'resume' resulted in a
> >>restart from 0) and when I finally managed to get the full file it was
> >>corrupted.
> >>Now I want to order a DVD and when I click on the appropriate link on
> >>the web site I get redirected to the home page.
>
> >>Who at Xilinx wants to prevent people from using their products ?
>
> >Maybe the same people that >1 year leadtimes are acceptable.
>
> It sounds like, for serious product developers, that using Xilinx's latest
> and greatest (devices and software) is not a great idea.  The options are
> either stick with the older devices and software (11.3 been working ok for
> me).  Or move to another FPGA manufacture that seems to be more consistent.
[...]

Well since the intent of all this was to do a quick FPGA benchmark it
seems that Xilinx earned a VERY bad mark there.
Altera wasn't very good either but I managed to install the software
once I got it.
Lattice's software comes through a normal file transfer, it is
perfectly handled by FireFox (I stopped the download yesterday night
and just resumed it. I only hope that the file won't be corrupted)
Actel's software went fine

Are Austin and Peter still reading this newsgroup ? Can you do
something about it ? Please ?

Nico
From: Nicolas Matringe on 16 Jul 2010 09:07
On 15 juil, 10:08, Nicolas Matringe <nic_o_...(a)msn.com> wrote:
> Hello
> I've been trying to download these 2.9GB for 3 days with numerous
> retries (thanks to the download manager, the 'resume' resulted in a
> restart from 0) and when I finally managed to get the full file it was
> corrupted.

I finally managed to get the full file in running order after another
6 hours download, now I'm installing it.

Nico
From: d_s_klein on 16 Jul 2010 12:06
On Jul 15, 9:28 am, rich12345 <aiiad...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 1:08 am, Nicolas Matringe <nic_o_...(a)msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> > I've been trying to download these 2.9GB for 3 days with numerous
> > retries (thanks to the download manager, the 'resume' resulted in a
> > restart from 0) and when I finally managed to get the full file it was
> > corrupted.
>
> I had the same problem.  I can't remember which browser wasn't working
> (IExplorer or FireFox).....  But when I switched to the other browser,
> the download worked fine with the download manager.
>
> Rich

I had similar results. My thought was that it was a Java problem -
different browsers typically have different ways of dealing with
embedded Java.

RK.
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