From: Raymond Yohros on
On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan <bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote:
>
>
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> > On Jul 5, 5:31 am, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com>  wrote:
> >> On 7/5/2010 8:07 AM, BURT wrote:
>
> >>>>> How does the anti matter get into the trap without interacting with
> >>>>> the matter making up the trap?
>
> >>> - The antiprotons are created in high vacuum,
>
> >>> How are they created there? How high is the vacuum?
>
> >> A particle accelerator creates them during collision events.
>
> >> The vacuum is very complete. It's the equivalent of the vacuum of space
>
> > You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are
> > not. So which one is it?
>
> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle
> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the
> particles they are colliding together, from the background.
>
>         Yousuf Khan

and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way!

otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that
may not be safe.

r.y
From: J. Clarke on
On 7/5/2010 10:52 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
> On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote:
>>
>>
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>>
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>>> On Jul 5, 5:31 am, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/5/2010 8:07 AM, BURT wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> How does the anti matter get into the trap without interacting with
>>>>>>> the matter making up the trap?
>>
>>>>> - The antiprotons are created in high vacuum,
>>
>>>>> How are they created there? How high is the vacuum?
>>
>>>> A particle accelerator creates them during collision events.
>>
>>>> The vacuum is very complete. It's the equivalent of the vacuum of space
>>
>>> You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are
>>> not. So which one is it?
>>
>> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle
>> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the
>> particles they are colliding together, from the background.
>>
>> Yousuf Khan
>
> and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way!
>
> otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that
> may not be safe.

Why would they make a "big booooooommmmmm effect"? The amount of
antimatter that a particle accelerator produces is minuscule.



From: Raymond Yohros on
On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> On 7/5/2010 10:52 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com>  wrote:
> >> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 5, 5:31 am, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com>    wrote:
> >>>> On 7/5/2010 8:07 AM, BURT wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> How does the anti matter get into the trap without interacting with
> >>>>>>> the matter making up the trap?
>
> >>>>> - The antiprotons are created in high vacuum,
>
> >>>>> How are they created there? How high is the vacuum?
>
> >>>> A particle accelerator creates them during collision events.
>
> >>>> The vacuum is very complete. It's the equivalent of the vacuum of space
>
> >>> You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are
> >>> not. So which one is it?
>
> >> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle
> >> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the
> >> particles they are colliding together, from the background.
>
> >>          Yousuf Khan
>
> > and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way!
>
> > otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that
> > may not be safe.
>
> Why would they make a "big booooooommmmmm effect"?  The amount of
> antimatter that a particle accelerator produces is minuscule.
>

can you imagine any particle collition in something
that is not a vacuum. what you think it could happen?

r.y
From: J. Clarke on
On 7/5/2010 11:37 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
> On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> On 7/5/2010 10:52 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Jul 5, 5:31 am, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/5/2010 8:07 AM, BURT wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> How does the anti matter get into the trap without interacting with
>>>>>>>>> the matter making up the trap?
>>
>>>>>>> - The antiprotons are created in high vacuum,
>>
>>>>>>> How are they created there? How high is the vacuum?
>>
>>>>>> A particle accelerator creates them during collision events.
>>
>>>>>> The vacuum is very complete. It's the equivalent of the vacuum of space
>>
>>>>> You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are
>>>>> not. So which one is it?
>>
>>>> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle
>>>> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the
>>>> particles they are colliding together, from the background.
>>
>>>> Yousuf Khan
>>
>>> and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way!
>>
>>> otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that
>>> may not be safe.
>>
>> Why would they make a "big booooooommmmmm effect"? The amount of
>> antimatter that a particle accelerator produces is minuscule.
>>
>
> can you imagine any particle collition in something
> that is not a vacuum. what you think it could happen?

Not much. Hint--"particle collisions" occur in the atmosphere every day
at energy levels higher than any particle accelerator can achieve, with
no "big booooommmmmm effect". Google "cosmic rays".

From: Yousuf Khan on
On 7/6/2010 9:37 AM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
> On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> On 7/5/2010 10:52 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
>>> On Jul 5, 9:30 pm, Yousuf Khan<bbb...(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/2010 12:56 AM, BURT wrote:
>>>>> You said they were created high in a vacuum. Particle accelerators are
>>>>> not. So which one is it?
>>
>>>> Are you trying to be deliberately dense here? Of course particle
>>>> accelerators are in a vacuum. They require the vacuum to isolate the
>>>> particles they are colliding together, from the background.
>>
>>>> Yousuf Khan
>>
>>> and that is why is perfectly safe to study particles this way!
>>
>>> otherwise, they will make a big booooooommmmmm effect that
>>> may not be safe.
>>
>> Why would they make a "big booooooommmmmm effect"? The amount of
>> antimatter that a particle accelerator produces is minuscule.
>>
>
> can you imagine any particle collition in something
> that is not a vacuum. what you think it could happen?

Yeah, it'll be so big that it might heat your cup of coffee. All of the
anti-matter that's being produced in particle accelerators right now is
maybe a few thousand particles, compared to quintillions of particles in
a room of air, it's nothing.

Yousuf Khan