From: BillW50 on
In news:hl1oc8$p0s$1(a)reader2.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:12:56 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <slrnhn8j2c.f70.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org>,
> S. Fishpaste <marathon.durandal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No they haven't. Most UNIX administrators know how to lock down a
>> box. Most exploits come from enabled web services.
>>
>
> Rootkits are rare in a Unix environment as an entry point. You
> do seem them sometimes as a followup to another exploit. A typical
> scenario is that a poorly coded web application allows a command line
> to be executed as the web user, and that's exploited to yield root
> permissions which are in turn used to install other applications which
> may include "rootkits".
>
> Root exploits in general are pretty rare in Unix. Most programs run
> as a non root user so exploiting them doesn't get you root. There
> are a few that pop up now and then... It's a fundamentally more
> secure environment because of its simplicity.

I've never written a rootkit. But from what I understand, they wait
until one user logs in with root (administrative) control. Now they are
free to install and do anything they want too since they have full
control.

So to stop a rootkit, no user can use root level access. Well sounds
good on paper, but you can't install any applications or anything
without root access control.

>> The issue is between the chair and the keyboard Bill.
>
> Yup. I use Xine on an old AMD box to play movies while I do other
> stuff. Works fine.

I use an old Toshiba 2595XDVD ('99 era) running Windows 98 with a 400MHz
Celeron with only 64GB of RAM to watch DVD movies on. Can Xine do this
on the same machine?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3


From: the wharf rat on
In article <hl1q40$4rs$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>I've never written a rootkit. But from what I understand, they wait
>until one user logs in with root (administrative) control. Now they are
>free to install and do anything they want too since they have full
>control.

It doesn't work that way.

>I use an old Toshiba 2595XDVD ('99 era) running Windows 98 with a 400MHz

Doesn't that thing have a hardware mpeg processor, the add on board
that's under the bottom of the keyboard...



From: the wharf rat on
In article <hl1tdg$3ni$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> No they haven't. Most UNIX administrators know how to lock down a box.
>> Most exploits come from enabled web services.
>
>Really? That isn't what I hear from Google searches. So how does most
>
How do you think linux exploits happen?



>For starters, I have been here for many years helping laptop users to

One of my first laptops had Solaris. It was a tadpole, Still have it.

From: BillW50 on
In news:hl21av$qg6$1(a)reader2.panix.com,
the wharf rat typed on Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:45:51 +0000 (UTC):
> In article <hl1q40$4rs$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>>
>> I've never written a rootkit. But from what I understand, they wait
>> until one user logs in with root (administrative) control. Now they
>> are free to install and do anything they want too since they have
>> full control.
>
> It doesn't work that way.

Really? Tell us how rootkits really works then.

>> I use an old Toshiba 2595XDVD ('99 era) running Windows 98 with a
>> 400MHz
>
> Doesn't that thing have a hardware mpeg processor, the add on board
> that's under the bottom of the keyboard...

Nope, I don't think so. As a 400MHz Celeron is the lowest that you can
go to get decent DVD playback from all I know under Windows. My
experience with Linux, you need three or more times the processor power
for the same.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3


From: BillW50 on
In news:hl1q40$4rs$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
BillW50 typed on Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:42:38 -0600:
> I use an old Toshiba 2595XDVD ('99 era) running Windows 98 with a
> 400MHz Celeron with only 64GB of RAM to watch DVD movies on. Can Xine
> do this on the same machine?

I mean 64MB of RAM. 64GB of RAM I wish. lol

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3