From: the wharf rat on
In article <hkg9bm$sdq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>The video is but the audio is not.
>

That's PCM.


From: AJL on
"BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

>The Ubuntu Netbook Remix is the latest version 9.04.

Found this on a Ubuntu newsgroup. Since there is no easy way to use a
link I'll just lift it. Just thought it might prove interesting.
Course it doesn't cover your DVD problems...
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I recently acquired a Gateway 2104u Netbook with Windows 7 on it. I
wanted to play around a bit with it by loading Linux on it. I hadn't
actually done anything with Linux since Caldera came out to give you a
timeframe.

Ubuntu Network Remix (UNR) is a Linux distribution optimized to some
extent for the netbook environment. It is designed to be easy and
simple to install and to look and work well on netbooks. It is very
successful based on my narrow experience.

Installation :
UNR is supposed to be loadable on a flash stick and installable or
runable from it. I never could get this netbook to boot from it. I
tend to think it is something in this particular netbook because other
reports are that it works fine.

So I created a DVD from the downloaded iso. Booted into it and tested
it running from the DVD. Everything seemed to work well enough to
want
to do the install.

So I started the install from the DVD. All went smoothly, and the
default partitioning scheme is to split the drive nearly in half so
that
you can switch between UNR and some other OS, in this case W7.
Install
took 10-15 minutes, start to finish and when it booted things were
mostly good.

It didn't automatically use the wireless NIC in this netbook, so I had
to do a simple configuration in Network Connections. Enter the SSID
of
the network, specify security type, and give the passphrase. Then it
worked fine. So I think it saw it, just didn't set it up
automatically.

As an aside, I did later fiddle around and reinstall UNR, and the
second
time it did pick up the wireless and made the setup slightly simpler,
mostly because it prompted for it.

All else worked fine. Wired NIC, sound, video, touchpad, keyboard.
No
glitches.

A nice plus was that UNR is easier on the eyes on this small 10"
widescreen than is W7. No squinting or reading glasses needed for my
old eyes.

Performance:

Superb! I had expected that it would be better than W7 in the uses I
had for it, and it is, but only slightly. Snappy and responsive are
good words to describe the performance under either OS. I was a bit
surprised at that as I expected that a 1.6Ghz Atom wouldn't perform
well.

Random thoughts:

I use a netbook for ebook reading and watching Hulu at home, in bed.
With UNR, the Hulu experience is very good, better than under windows.
But the ebook reading is poorer by far. I got the FBReader program
and
it works fine with my pdb files, but it is just not a very good ebook
reader, imo. Which seems strange as some of the dedicated ebook
hardware is running Linux, you'd think there were better ebook readers
available. But it isn't the case.

Yes, I know, I could read with Adobe or the browser, but neither of
those are as slick as eReaderPro which is available for OSX, Windows
and
the iPhone/iPod Touch.

When on a trip, the netbook would fill in to do email, web surfing,
usenet, ebooks and some video. UNR can fill all those quite well,
with
the exception of the ebook reading.

In all this, I actually attempted to take the netbook back to w7 only.
But the recovery DVDs don't repartition, so things just didn't work
well. To the point that it would start grub then reboot over and over
again.

So I opted to reinstall UNR. On the second install, I had to do the
partitioning manually because the default wanted to split the HD up
even
more which wasn't what I wanted.

Overall:

UNR is a good choice as only or second OS on a Netbook based on my
limited experience with it. The only hole for me is the ebook reading
and that is just a missing good Linux app for it.

Otherwise, everything else works as expected. Install is very easy
for
someone with some knowledge of installing an OS from scratch. I
wouldn't want to give a DVD to my mom (she's 89) to install, but then
I
wouldn't give her a W7 DVD to install either.

Lloyd
From: BillW50 on
AJL wrote:
> "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> The Ubuntu Netbook Remix is the latest version 9.04.
>
> Found this on a Ubuntu newsgroup. Since there is no easy way to use a
> link I'll just lift it. Just thought it might prove interesting.
> Course it doesn't cover your DVD problems...

Many thanks AJL! Very interesting read. I never tried Hulu yet, but
playing Youtube videos wasn't too impressive. And just playing low
quality MP3 at 32k eats up half of the processor power. This netbook has
a 900MHz Celeron. Although it is under clocked down to 633MHz. Yet
Windows on this same machine can handle 10 times faster streams than
Ubuntu can.

Are you playing DVD on your Ubuntu machine? Have you tried other media
files with it?

I think I deleted my add favorite application from Ubuntu. As I can't
find it on the desktop anymore. Although I found out that I can drag and
drop apps there anyway. So I don't know if I really need it or not. I'm
sure there is a way to get it back. lol

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix
From: AJL on
BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

>Are you playing DVD on your Ubuntu machine?

No. My purpose with Ubuntu is to use it in *addition* to Windows, not
as a replacement. My understanding is that there are legal reasons why
all the commercial codacs don't come with the original installation of
Ubuntu. However from what I read they can be found and installed with
a little work. I just don't play commercial DVDs enough and of course
Windows is still there when I do want to preview one...

>Have you tried other media files with it?

All the media files I've tried so far have worked. But again if you
need one that you find doesn't work, Google is your friend... ;)

>I think I deleted my add favorite application from Ubuntu. As I can't
>find it on the desktop anymore... I'm sure there is a way to get it back. lol

The package manager that comes in the full version is very easy to use
and is pointed (locked) to the official repository so it's hard to get
into trouble. I've installed and uninstalled maybe 20 or 30 apps now
just to try them and nary a problem...and never a need to
reboot...take that Windows!!

However when I do want to try something from somewhere else I use the
Synaptic package manager (which I also use on my 2G Surf). It's easy
to use and very versatile.
From: BillW50 on
In news:f3rtm5pfs1v8j11cu95kioa1jtblgevruc(a)4ax.com,
AJL typed on Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:10:56 -0700:
> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Are you playing DVD on your Ubuntu machine?
>
> No. My purpose with Ubuntu is to use it in *addition* to Windows, not
> as a replacement.

Oh I see! People told me for many years that Linux could replace what we
are now doing under Windows. And I never saw that yet. And that is why I
call Linux as a glorified PDA OS. Although it seems like the iPhone can
actually do more than Linux can nowadays.

> My understanding is that there are legal reasons why
> all the commercial codacs don't come with the original installation of
> Ubuntu. However from what I read they can be found and installed with
> a little work. I just don't play commercial DVDs enough and of course
> Windows is still there when I do want to preview one...

Windows XP can't natively play DVD videos either. But there was always
PowerDVD and WinDVD that came with many OEM versions that included them.
And you can install for free K-Lite to play them too if you wanted too.

>> Have you tried other media files with it?
>
> All the media files I've tried so far have worked. But again if you
> need one that you find doesn't work, Google is your friend... ;)

All of my Windows machines have a temp gauge. So I would like on that
Ubuntu machine too. So I Googled it and I found one. Although after I
read all that was involved to install it, I put it on the list of things
to do later list. Things are so much easier to do under Windows.

>> I think I deleted my add favorite application from Ubuntu. As I can't
>> find it on the desktop anymore... I'm sure there is a way to get it
>> back. lol
>
> The package manager that comes in the full version is very easy to use
> and is pointed (locked) to the official repository so it's hard to get
> into trouble. I've installed and uninstalled maybe 20 or 30 apps now
> just to try them and nary a problem...and never a need to
> reboot...take that Windows!!

I mean that Ubuntu tab desktop that has that Favorites tab. Xandros in
Easy Mode has the same thing. And an utility to add or remove
applications from this tab. And I must have deleted the utility since I
don't see it anymore.

> However when I do want to try something from somewhere else I use the
> Synaptic package manager (which I also use on my 2G Surf). It's easy
> to use and very versatile.

Ubuntu Netbook Remix only takes up 2.3GB here. I don't know if it can
install with a little less applications that would fit on your Surf or
not.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2