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From: S. Fishpaste on 2 Feb 2010 20:17 On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:16:14 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote: > S. Fishpaste wrote on Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:32:20 -0500: >> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:54:26 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote: >>> In news:slrnhm1lqa.72t.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, >>> S. Fishpaste typed on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:16:10 -0500: >>>> Why don't you use a modern Linux distro like Ubuntu? It's made for >>>> folks like you and works on EEEPCs -- I installed it on several for >>>> clients. Works out of the box; everything including the camera. You'll >>>> aslo get a modern version of OOo. Xandros is a POS IMO. >>> Tried Ubuntu years ago and it never even loaded on any computer I ever >>> tried. I still have the CD and I believe it never worked because the CD >>> was corrupt. >> >> So I tried a Windoze install years ago and it never worked -- I still >> use windows though. ;-D > > Yeah I heard that before from a few. I guess Windows and some people > just doesn't get along too well. > >> Do yourself a favour, grab the latest Ubuntu, install it and be a >> happy camper. > > Yeah, AJL talked me into that hours ago. It is running and the WiFi, > Webcam, mic, sound, etc are all working. Which is a first for Ubuntu. As > earlier versions, always something wouldn't work right. Although I need > to work on why it doesn't like multimedia files and DVDs right now. So you're a slow learner/obtuse. It was suggested to you longer than a few hours ago. Glad you finally took the advice I and others have given you. >> Re poorly written applications -- You'll find that anywhere. There are >> a sh*tload of Windoze applicatons written poorly to. There are some >> great applications that run on Linux, you just have to know what >> you're doing. > > I sort of doubt that. As I am still looking for the good Linux stuff. Doubt all you want, doesn't mean you actually know what you're talking about! Linux is the kernel, NOT the applications running on that kernel. If you want examples of good written quality Linux and GNU applications, all you have to do is take a look at Debian. Linux the kernel & GNU are often used in far more demanding roles than any MSFT Windows OS is/are. Trust me when I say that your NSA sure as hell doesn't use MSFT Windows! They use hardened Linux old boy. First thing many of us UNIX do is install GNU applications on other Operating Systems <ie> always goes on any Solaris installation I'm responsible for. That's because many of the GNU applications are written damn well. If you have experience, you should have known this. Of course if your only experience has been Xandros etc., and many of the projects on Freshmeat or SourceForge, then you're forgiven for not knowing what you're talking about. Most of the projects on Freshmeat are written by compsi students, so they're not expected to be at the height of their competency. That's why they're in school. >> If you have UNIX experience it's much easier -- But as a >> programmer you sure don't seem very familiar with source files ... > > That was years ago when all we had was WordStar, dBase, and SuperCalc. > If you wanted anything else, you had to write your own programs. And I > sure did a lot back then. Then when applications became plentiful, I was > more than happy to let others do it. :-P Well I wrote machine code circa 35 years ago and am still doing so today.
From: BillW50 on 4 Feb 2010 08:16 In news:slrnhmhk9n.8fe.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, S. Fishpaste typed on Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:28:23 -0500: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:20:42 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote: >> AJL wrote on Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:30:25 -0700: >>> "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >>> >>>> downloading another Ubuntu version for like the 4th >>>> time in all of these years. I am sure I'll regret it like all of >>>> the other times. :-( >>> >>> This is the first Ubuntu version (9.10) that has worked flawlessly. >> >> Well apparently for me too. Everything seems to be working except >> playing media files and DVDs so far. And this is the Netbook Remix >> version. Which is supposed to fit on small screens. Although the >> default email application doesn't fit on the screen. So I had to find >> Thunderbird and install that for now. > > You shouldn't use the Netbook remix -- It's old. Just use the regular > Ubuntu distribution. That's probably why you don't have all the codecs > you need. The Ubuntu Netbook Remix is the latest version 9.04. >>> I've not had the nightmares you've had in the past but previous >>> versions have always had wireless and display troubles for me. So >>> far there has not been one glitch with this version. I've >>> downloaded tens of programs and they all have worked. Ubuntu >>> understands NTFS so even though it has it's own little partition I >>> can still use the whole windows partition for storage. Better than >>> that I can run windows programs (like this newsreader) from the >>> windows partition without having to move them using Wine. I've lost >>> nothing from my Windows OS on the two laptops I've tried this on, >>> but gained thousands of available Linux only apps...like >>> OpenOffice.... ;) > > OOo (open office org) is not a Linux only application! Yes I know, I have it on some of my Windows machines too. I don't like it as much as I do MS Office though. Which I also have a few machines like this one here. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2
From: BillW50 on 4 Feb 2010 08:17 In news:slrnhmhk38.8fe.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, S. Fishpaste typed on Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:24:56 -0500: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 07:21:15 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote: >> In news:slrnhm6adk.6mf.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, >> S. Fishpaste typed on Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:32:20 -0500: >>> Do yourself a favour, grab the latest Ubuntu, install it and be a >>> happy camper. >> >> Well this is day 6 of using Ubuntu 9.04. And while it is impressive >> and gets a passing grade in almost all categories except for >> multimedia. There it fails miserably. Even Xandros plays more media >> files than Ubuntu does. Also any Linux is very CPU intensive playing >> media files. > > Use a lighter window manager then. Read up on how to play multimedia. > I can play anything, including Apple Quicktime. Sounds good. >> While it is true that Linux needs less RAM than Windows does. No >> problem there. But when it comes to multimedia, Linux needs a far >> more powerful CPU than Windows ever did. Even netbooks has a lot of >> RAM, but low on CPU power. So even on netbooks it makes more sense >> to run Windows vs. Linux. At least if you want to run multimedia too. > > B$ You simply need to learn how to use it with the proper tools. You > can't expect to install soemthing and the next day be the expert. If > you prefer Windows, than by all means stick to it. No one is saying > you must use Linux. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the difference. Linux eats up lots of processor time for multimedia. Barry says it because Linux doesn't have the equivalent of DirectX. And I tend to agree. >> I listen to about 4 hours of media files a day. So this is very >> important to me. Streaming tech and science stuff if you must know. >> And it seems crazy to me to run Linux and have a Windows machine >> running too, just to play the media files. As why bother running >> Linux at all? As why not just use a Windows machine alone? > > Indeed you should stick with what you know, MSFT Windows. You have to > be prepared to use any product for at least a month, daily, in order > to have a genuine feel as to it's capabilities, and to get oneself > up-to-speed with those.. > > The fact that many pros use Linux to produce multimedia content > notwithstanding. The problem you have is between the chair and the > keyboard. First, I have been using Linux for years. Secondly, I am sure there are people using very expensive, high powered processors to produce multimedia under Linux. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2
From: BillW50 on 4 Feb 2010 08:17 In news:hka98n$8ui$2(a)reader2.panix.com, the wharf rat typed on Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:33:59 +0000 (UTC): > In article <hka2m3$q22$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> >> Ubuntu doesn't like the format in Windows Media format > > lol. > > Have you tried mpeg? Yup, mpeg works just fine. Although I have 100GB worth of files in Windows Media format. I never got Ubuntu to play DVD format yet either. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2
From: BillW50 on 4 Feb 2010 10:43
In news:slrnhmhjkv.8fe.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, S. Fishpaste typed on Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:17:19 -0500: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:16:14 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops wrote: >> S. Fishpaste wrote on Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:32:20 -0500: >>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:54:26 -0600, BillW50 in comp.sys.laptops >>> wrote: >>>> In news:slrnhm1lqa.72t.SDA(a)laptop.sweetpig.dyndns.org, >>>> S. Fishpaste typed on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:16:10 -0500: >>>>> Why don't you use a modern Linux distro like Ubuntu? It's made for >>>>> folks like you and works on EEEPCs -- I installed it on several >>>>> for clients. Works out of the box; everything including the >>>>> camera. You'll aslo get a modern version of OOo. Xandros is a POS >>>>> IMO. >>>> Tried Ubuntu years ago and it never even loaded on any computer I >>>> ever tried. I still have the CD and I believe it never worked >>>> because the CD was corrupt. >>> >>> So I tried a Windoze install years ago and it never worked -- I >>> still use windows though. ;-D >> >> Yeah I heard that before from a few. I guess Windows and some people >> just doesn't get along too well. >> >>> Do yourself a favour, grab the latest Ubuntu, install it and be a >>> happy camper. >> >> Yeah, AJL talked me into that hours ago. It is running and the WiFi, >> Webcam, mic, sound, etc are all working. Which is a first for >> Ubuntu. As earlier versions, always something wouldn't work right. >> Although I need to work on why it doesn't like multimedia files and >> DVDs right now. > > So you're a slow learner/obtuse. It was suggested to you longer than a > few hours ago. Glad you finally took the advice I and others have > given you. Slow learner, eh? And I learn the same thing as I had before. The exception is that Ubuntu 9.04 does seem to work with many devices. That is the only new thing. Otherwise it is all of the same as before. >>> Re poorly written applications -- You'll find that anywhere. There >>> are a sh*tload of Windoze applicatons written poorly to. There are >>> some great applications that run on Linux, you just have to know >>> what you're doing. >> >> I sort of doubt that. As I am still looking for the good Linux stuff. > > Doubt all you want, doesn't mean you actually know what you're talking > about! Linux is the kernel, NOT the applications running on that > kernel. Of course Linux is just a kernel. Although the beauty of a kernel is that it allows applications to run even when the OS code changes. I think of the kernel as an index (pointer) for OS calls. > If you want examples of good written quality Linux and GNU > applications, all you have to do is take a look at Debian. Both Xandros and Ubuntu uses Debian applications. So what am I missing? > Linux the kernel & GNU are often used in far more demanding roles than > any MSFT Windows OS is/are. Trust me when I say that your NSA sure as > hell doesn't use MSFT Windows! They use hardened Linux old boy. While rootkits are relatively new in the Windows world, they have been plaguing *nix users for almost the past 20 years now. > First thing many of us UNIX do is install GNU applications on > other Operating Systems <ie> always goes on any Solaris installation > I'm responsible for. That's because many of the GNU applications are > written damn well. If you have experience, you should have known this. Don't use Solaris, sorry. Nor does 99.9% of the world does either. > Of course if your only experience has been Xandros etc., and many of > the projects on Freshmeat or SourceForge, then you're forgiven for not > knowing what you're talking about. Most of the projects on Freshmeat > are written by compsi students, so they're not expected to be at the > height of their competency. That's why they're in school. I've used Xandros for the last couple of years because it works. While Ubuntu and Puppy Linux does not. Well okay 9.04 does work, but like all Linux I've tried, are terrible in the multimedia department. At least my three year old Xandros can handle more multimedia file types than Ubuntu 9.04 can so far. >>> If you have UNIX experience it's much easier -- But as a >>> programmer you sure don't seem very familiar with source files ... >> >> That was years ago when all we had was WordStar, dBase, and >> SuperCalc. If you wanted anything else, you had to write your own >> programs. And I sure did a lot back then. Then when applications >> became plentiful, I was more than happy to let others do it. :-P > > Well I wrote machine code circa 35 years ago and am still doing so > today. Are you sure you are writing machine code? I did that many years ago too. But everybody I knew gave that up about 30 years ago. And they use assembly language instead of machine code. Which is more or less the same thing. Although assembly is a program language that generates machine code for you. Which is much easier to use than to think in 1's and 0's, and all of those logic gates. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3 |