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From: Jolly Roger on 5 Feb 2010 20:49 In article <michelle-465C62.09532805022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-BEB99C.09523005022010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > Interesting article on the differences between Apple and Adobe. > > > > Does this really belong in comp.sys.mac.system?? > > > > I would think this would be better posted to comp.sys.mac.misc. > > Well, for one thing, I'm not subscribed to that newsgroup. For another, I > thought that this excerpt made it suitable for this newsgroup: > (snip) Not in my mind. The article is titled "Apple vs. Adobe" for a reason, after all. Looking past the title, the article is largely about application-level software. And I've seen you yourself say that discussions about application software that is not included with Mac OS X is probably best placed in comp.sys.mac.apps. Seems to me if you truly cared about posting it to an appropriate newsgroup, rather than whatever news group to which you happen to feel like subscribing, you'd probably have posted it to comp.sys.mac.apps. I get the impression you're just making up excuses after the fact. That's all well and good, though personally I would prefer you to just be honest and say you don't care! > It's more on topic than hardware issues (e.g., hard drive and drive > connectivity) that are on this NG. I disagree. The term "system" may apply just as well to hardware. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: salgud on 5 Feb 2010 21:07 On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:04:09 -0500, Dan L. wrote: > In article <hkhfc901r2p(a)news5.newsguy.com>, > J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:22:06 -0500, Michelle Steiner wrote >> (in article <michelle-86F5DA.08220605022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>): >> >>> The recent comments from Steve Jobs regarding Adobe might well be the first >>> sign of a "cold war" between the two companies. Apple would be already >>> preparing and developing applications to compete directly with Adobe's >>> solutions, leading to open warfare. Cupertino would also be developing a >>> software that could compete with Flash and Dreamweaver, entirely based on >>> HTML 5.0. Beside Aperture X which should be released soon, Apple might also >>> be working to develop a solution similar to Photoshop, a high-end >>> Pro-oriented solution. We do not know further details about those >>> applications being developed as it is either hidden from view or just >>> starting. >> >> I own CS2. I have point-blank refused to update to CS3 or CS4, in large part >> due to the outrageous pricing structure. I would only go to CS5 if a future >> Apple OS update renders CS2 unusable... and even then I'd think hard before I >> did it. If Apple (or anyone else, even Microsoft, and yes I'm absolutely >> serious about that...) were to unleash software which could replace >> Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, and Dreamweaver, but at a reasonable price, >> I'd buy it immediately. > > Same here: I own SC2 also and also refuse to update. It is the only > software I have that occasionally hangs up and have to force quit. Does > not work with Apples fileVault or third party file encryption systems. I > have too keep sensitive information using separate user names using > encryption. I have other issues as well with Adobe. > > I will take BBedit anytime over Dreamweaver. Apples iWeb works well for > Non-industrial uses. iWorks is sufficient enough for me to replace > InDesign. iWorks could use some improvement for me, in the area of > mail/file merging. I hope, when I update my software, there will be a > good replacement for Illustrator and Photoshop so I can say GOOD-BYE to > Adobe. > > Also wasn't CSS suppose to replace HTML? > HTML 5.0 is not needed. Improve CSS instead. > > Enjoy Life... Dan Not a PS or CS user here, but I still have issues with Adobe. Every check the option for auto-update on Adobe Writer? It wants to update every other day, and pesters you with unending reminders to do so. Then it ties up your computer forever when you do update. Ugh!
From: Paul Magnussen on 5 Feb 2010 21:14 Michelle Steiner wrote: > In order to prevent any bypassing by software-based > debuggers, the ASA shunts the system in order to directly access the > deepest layer of the CPU and the RAM, without considering the protection > of such components built into Mac OS X. I confess myself mildly surprised that this is possible: I thought that apps that fucked up system memory were gone with OS 9... Paul Magnussen
From: Warren Oates on 6 Feb 2010 11:35 In article <jollyroger-BEB99C.09523005022010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > Does this really belong in comp.sys.mac.system?? > > I would think this would be better posted to comp.sys.mac.misc. I'm really glad you've got me kill-filed, JR. How many angels ... -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: Warren Oates on 6 Feb 2010 11:38
In article <michelle-465C62.09532805022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > > Apple is also upset about Adobe Software Activation, their > anti-piracy protection. This system forces CS users to validate their > license online. In order to prevent any bypassing by software-based > debuggers, the ASA shunts the system in order to directly access the > deepest layer of the CPU and the RAM, without considering the protection > of such components built into Mac OS X. As a consequence it would increase > the risk of crash and fragmentation, making Mac OS X unable to manage or > better control them. So, every time the ASA is modified or updated as it > has already been hacked a certain number of times, Adobe asks Apple to > take measures on its system to let the ASA work efficiently, without > creating too much instability. [~]$ cat /etc/hosts ## 127.0.0.1 activate.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 practivate.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 ereg.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 activate.wip3.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 wip3.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 3dns-3.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 3dns-2.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 adobe-dns.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 adobe-dns-2.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 adobe-dns-3.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 ereg.wip3.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 activate-sea.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 wwis-dubc1-vip60.adobe.com 127.0.0.1 activate-sjc0.adobe.com ## .... and my apps are all legit. I don't want anyone calling home. Flash seems to, but I'm using 10.1 beta and flex and so on, so I let it. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer |