From: Conor on
On 22/05/2010 10:01, T i m wrote:

> Stats from my Fritz! router. Received this month: 107283MB
>
> VM Cable. ;-)
>

And?

That's nothing.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I was always unhappy with the old modem ways - ADSL is a seriously
> > clever bit of work: be impressed with it, be very impressed.
>
> I would be if it worked reliably. Since it doesn't (for me) I'm less
> than impressed.

ADSL does work reliably - certainly more reliably on average than
modems.

Your personal experience is - and this should be clear even to you - not
statistically remotely relevant at all.

To get out of ADSL what you should get, it must be installed and
maintained under the supervision of competent engineers.

I said `engineers', by which I mean someone with a degree and membership
of a professional engineering institution and professional
qualifications who takes his job seriously because it's a serious
business if he gets anything wrong. /Not/ some spotty herbert who's had
three days training on how to plug modules of electronics together
according to the flow-chart he's been given.

If you have it installed and maintained by clowns as I expect is the
case with your situation, you can expect it to work badly (these days,
the kit's all installed and operated by different firms which makes it
even harder to get it working properly, because they all blame each
other for the fault and all refuse to try to find the fault).

That's what you get without proper engineers - you gotta have adequate
brains on the job, and if you don't, it'll go wrong.

Nuffin' wrong with the tech; everything that's wrong is a human failure
on the part of the management.

Rowland.

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From: Jim on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > I was always unhappy with the old modem ways - ADSL is a seriously
> > > clever bit of work: be impressed with it, be very impressed.
> >
> > I would be if it worked reliably. Since it doesn't (for me) I'm less
> > than impressed.
>
> ADSL does work reliably - certainly more reliably on average than
> modems.
>
> Your personal experience is - and this should be clear even to you - not
> statistically remotely relevant at all.
>
> To get out of ADSL what you should get, it must be installed and
> maintained under the supervision of competent engineers.
>
> I said `engineers', by which I mean someone with a degree and membership
> of a professional engineering institution and professional
> qualifications who takes his job seriously because it's a serious
> business if he gets anything wrong. /Not/ some spotty herbert who's had
> three days training on how to plug modules of electronics together
> according to the flow-chart he's been given.
>
> If you have it installed and maintained by clowns as I expect is the
> case with your situation, you can expect it to work badly (these days,
> the kit's all installed and operated by different firms which makes it
> even harder to get it working properly, because they all blame each
> other for the fault and all refuse to try to find the fault).
>
> That's what you get without proper engineers - you gotta have adequate
> brains on the job, and if you don't, it'll go wrong.
>
> Nuffin' wrong with the tech; everything that's wrong is a human failure
> on the part of the management.

Go back and read what I originally posted - something happened back in
Feb that stopped from being (fairly) trouble free. No changes had been
made at my end.

It was around the time that I was moved (without being asked) to the
21CN network.

Jim
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From: Jim on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> No, I will not follow your directions. I suggest that you read what I
> wrote - perhaps you'll understand it if you read my words.

You have no idea what you're talking about, and I'm ending this here.

Feel free to have the last word.

Jim
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From: Jim on
Conor <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:

> > Of *course*. I'm absolutely sure that there could be no other
> > explanation.
> >
> > Cretin.
> >
> Says the incompetent...

Oh, this should be good. Go on then - what am I doing wrong? Please keep
in mind that my ADSL connection has been fine for several years (with
the same ISP) until Feb.

Over to you.

Jim
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