Are Electric Fields Distrorted By Gravity? [Relativity]

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From: Y.Porat on 8 Aug 2010 23:59

On Aug 3, 11:30 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> Since gravitation exerts a force on both matter and light, might it not also
> affect electric and magnetic fields directly?
>
> If so, might it not follow that the artificial distortion of an electric or
> magnetic field should give rise to a gravitational force?
>
> Since magnetic and electric fields frequently coexist and since they provide
> the only known means of distorting each other, is it not conceivable that
> gravity is indeed just a manifestation of all the mutual field distortion
> present in all matter.
>
> Henry Wilson...
>
> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

-----------------------
indeed
since EM waves as any physical entity is a associated with mass - the
only one

therefore no wonder that gravity
is affecting EM waves
even the curvature of photons moving next to sun
is because photons has ***THE ***... mass
(and not because of curvature 'schmervature'' of space !!!)

ATB
Y.Porat
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ATB
Y.Porat
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From: dlzc on 9 Aug 2010 10:07

Dear Edward Green:

On Aug 8, 12:53 pm, Edward Green <spamspamsp...(a)netzero.com> wrote:
> On Aug 5, 10:01 am,dlzc<dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 3:29 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT),dlzc<dl...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > ...
> > > >Note that materials affect electric (permittivity
> > > >is pretty constant but not exactly so) and magnetic
> > > >(ferro-, para- and dia-magnetism) fields
> > > >differently than there mass would otherwise
> > > >indicate.
>
> > > >I had hoped you would have asked if measurements
> > > >had been done to establish how those fields are
> > > >altered by "elevation" in a g field (as opposed
> > > >to "horizontal" distance). That would be
> > > >interesting...
>
> > > At least you are taking the question seriously
>
> > Except for your massive leap from "do these fields
> > deform" to "they must be the cause of gravitation".
>
> > > even if you don't have any answers...
>
> > I had an answer. The answer is, your conclusion
> > doesn't follow, as my jello example showed.
>
> I am reminded of irreversible thermo, though: if a
> gradient in A drives a flux in B, the converse is
> often true. Or maybe always true. (I'm not sure
> now if this is a theorem or a hypothesis).
> Obviously your jello example doesn't quite fit
> this mold.

Hah! Jello, mold... I get it.

Henry's supposition that creating a distorted E and/or M field
produces gravitation doesn't carry any weight either. He didn't wait
to see if there was any anomalous variance between E and/or M, and
light as used to establish a measured space.

David A. Smith

From: Henry Wilson DSc on 9 Aug 2010 17:45

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:31:16 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 8, 5:59�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:11:09 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Aug 8, 5:00�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 17:03:59 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Aug 7, 5:13�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 05:51:32 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> there are none.
>>
>> >As I said...
>>
>> >> >This is religious fervor -- paying attention only to those things that
>> >> >support what you want to believe.
>>
>> >> You should know all about religious fervour, diaper.
>>
>> >On the contrary, I like documented, corroborated, published results.
>> >To you, that means nothing.
>>
>> >That's what marks what you do as religious fervor. Own it, Henry.
>>
>> there is not one piece of evidence that cannot be explained by BaTh.
>
>Sorry, but BaTh adorned by gremlins carrying your name (like "Wilson
>Magic Properties Bubbles") is not BaTh.
>Moreover, BaTh makes certain predictions that are in conflict with
>experiment, regardless whether you ignore the experiments with a wave
>of your hand or not.

Name one

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: Henry Wilson DSc on 9 Aug 2010 17:46

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 20:59:21 -0700 (PDT), "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 3, 11:30�pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>> Since gravitation exerts a force on both matter and light, might it not also
>> affect electric and magnetic fields directly?
>>
>> If so, might it not follow that the artificial distortion of an electric or
>> magnetic field should give rise to a gravitational force?
>>
>> Since magnetic and electric fields frequently coexist and since they provide
>> the only known means of distorting each other, is it not conceivable that
>> gravity is indeed just a manifestation of all the mutual field distortion
>> present in all matter.
>>
>> Henry Wilson...
>>
>> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
>-----------------------
>indeed
>since EM waves as any physical entity is a associated with mass - the
>only one
>
>therefore no wonder that gravity
>is affecting EM waves
>even the curvature of photons moving next to sun
>is because photons has ***THE ***... mass
>(and not because of curvature 'schmervature'' of space !!!)

Dead right

>ATB
>Y.Porat
>-------------------------------
>
>ATB
>Y.Porat
>--------------

Henry Wilson...

........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.

From: mpc755 on 9 Aug 2010 17:59

On Aug 9, 5:46 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 20:59:21 -0700 (PDT), "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 3, 11:30 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
> >> Since gravitation exerts a force on both matter and light, might it not also
> >> affect electric and magnetic fields directly?
>
> >> If so, might it not follow that the artificial distortion of an electric or
> >> magnetic field should give rise to a gravitational force?
>
> >> Since magnetic and electric fields frequently coexist and since they provide
> >> the only known means of distorting each other, is it not conceivable that
> >> gravity is indeed just a manifestation of all the mutual field distortion
> >> present in all matter.
>
> >> Henry Wilson...
>
> >> .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> >-----------------------
> >indeed
> >since EM waves as any physical entity is a associated with mass - the
> >only one
>
> >therefore no wonder that gravity
> >is affecting EM waves
> >even the curvature of photons moving next to sun
> >is because photons has ***THE ***... mass
> >(and not because of curvature 'schmervature'' of space !!!)
>
> Dead right
>

The photon 'has the mass' because the photon is propagating through
dark matter displaced by matter.