Atoms in molecules have to expand at bond when heated
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From: BURT on 7 Dec 2009 18:11 On Dec 7, 2:57 pm, tadchem <tadc...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Dec 5, 11:22 pm, Salmon Egg <Salmon...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > In article > > <e5c8a5de-cf92-4ffd-8c1e-04c6f0c68...(a)m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, > > > BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > There are four fundamental sizes of the atom. There are 4 electron > > > shells and they are sphere. When there is a bond electron inbetween > > > two atoms that absorbs light it expands both of its atoms and it goes > > > to their next outer shells. > > > > Bonded atoms of molecules expand and contract; as in heating water and > > > letting it cool. > > > > Mitch Raemsch - Aether flow is Two Times > > > Do you have a clue to what you are talking about? Do you understand > > anything about statistical mechanics or quantum theory? My guess is that > > your knowledge is superficial at best. > > > Expansion of molecules arises from vibrations of the atomic components > > that stretch or bend the molecule. For strongly bonded molecules there > > just is no vibrational excitation as a consequence of quantum mechanics.. > > Remember that kT at room temperature is about 1/40 of an electron volt. > > Bond energies can be an electron volt or so, the equivalent to the > > average energy of a degree of freedom of 11,600°K. The Boltzmann factor > > indicates that there will be no significant molecular expansion at low > > temperature. > > > Read up on the theory of specific heats by Einstein and Debye. > > BURT (aka Mitch Raemsch) doesn't have the attention span to read > anything longer than his own posts. > > Tom Davidson > Richmond, VA- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Bond expands with heat. There are 4 fundamental sizes of the atom because there are 4 shells for electrons. These expand and contract. Mitch Raemsch
From: Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr. on 7 Dec 2009 19:02 On Dec 7, 2:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > When any atom expands when one of its outer electrons absorbs enough > energy to quantum jump it takes the bond electrons with it. > Of course. Everybody knows that. So, what's the big deal?
From: BURT on 7 Dec 2009 19:11 On Dec 7, 4:02 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr." <ostap_bender_1...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 7, 2:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > When any atom expands when one of its outer electrons absorbs enough > > energy to quantum jump it takes the bond electrons with it. > > Of course. Everybody knows that. So, what's the big deal? No. Science has never done that. They have never established the fundamental sizes of the atom. No one in science is right about that. They have not established how atoms change size by shell contraction and expansion either because their shell shapes are wrong. Mitch Raemsch
From: Madalch on 7 Dec 2009 20:14 On Dec 7, 2:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > When any atom expands when one of its outer electrons absorbs enough > energy to quantum jump it takes the bond electrons with it. > > Mitch Raemsch If you have a water molecule which absorbs enough energy to knock a bonding electron from one orbital to another, you will be moving an electron from a bonding molecular orbital into an antibonding orbital. This breaks the hydrogen-oxygen bond, giving you a hydrogen radical and a hydroxyl radical. That's not expansion- that's photolysis.
From: BURT on 7 Dec 2009 20:22
On Dec 7, 5:14 pm, Madalch <tress...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 7, 2:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > When any atom expands when one of its outer electrons absorbs enough > > energy to quantum jump it takes the bond electrons with it. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > If you have a water molecule which absorbs enough energy to knock a > bonding electron from one orbital to another, you will be moving an > electron from a bonding molecular orbital into an antibonding orbital. > > This breaks the hydrogen-oxygen bond, giving you a hydrogen radical > and a hydroxyl radical. That's not expansion- that's photolysis. The electron cannot bond atoms together without staying inbetween them. This is a bonding electron and it is in the outer shells of the atoms. Mitch Raemsch |