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From: Happy Oyster on 6 Apr 2010 08:43
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:40:17 +1000, Derek <derek(a)home> wrote:

>Are the recordings finalised?

Yes.

>Can Windows or any other OS read them?

Does not seem so.


>Can a normal DVD _player_ read them?

I do not have one. So I cannot test that.


>DVD recorders usually write VR discs of some description that need to be
>"finalised" on the recorder to make them readable by a computer or
>normal DVD player.

What is the difference between VR and "normal"?

I tried to "finalize" such a DVD, but neither in the DVD recorder nor in K3b I
was able to find a menue item for this taksk. If I put in a "foreign" DVD, I
find no way to "finalize" that.

It is really strange.

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From: David Bolt on 6 Apr 2010 10:18
On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 13:43, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
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> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:40:17 +1000, Derek <derek(a)home> wrote:

>>Can Windows or any other OS read them?
>
> Does not seem so.

That would explain why Linux has an issue with the discs. Have you
checked that your DVD recorder can actually play them?

>>Can a normal DVD _player_ read them?
>
> I do not have one. So I cannot test that.

Exactly _what_ are you using, or did you use, to create these DVDs?

>>DVD recorders usually write VR discs of some description that need to be
>>"finalised" on the recorder to make them readable by a computer or
>>normal DVD player.
>
> What is the difference between VR and "normal"?

These should give you some details about the differences:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR_Mode>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-VR>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD+VR>

> I tried to "finalize" such a DVD, but neither in the DVD recorder nor in K3b I
> was able to find a menue item for this taksk.

If Linux was unable to figure out what the disc contained, I'm not
surprised that k3b can't finalise the disc. As for your recorder, it
may have already finalised the disc when you asked for it to be
ejected.

> If I put in a "foreign" DVD, I
> find no way to "finalize" that.

No surprise there as the disc will already be finalised.

> It is really strange.

My thought is that the DVD recorder has used their own propriety format
which no one else understands.


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David Bolt

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From: 1jam on 6 Apr 2010 15:15
Is vlc able to play them? It'll play anything. videolan.org
From: Happy Oyster on 6 Apr 2010 18:28
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:18:42 +0100, David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote:

>On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 13:43, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
>Happy Oyster painted this mural:
>
>> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:40:17 +1000, Derek <derek(a)home> wrote:
>
>>>Can Windows or any other OS read them?
>>
>> Does not seem so.
>
>That would explain why Linux has an issue with the discs. Have you
>checked that your DVD recorder can actually play them?

Yes. It does.

In the meantime I copied such a DVD onto the HDD of the recorder. Then burnt a
DVD from that with the recorder. THAT DVD can be read by the PC.


>>>Can a normal DVD _player_ read them?
>>
>> I do not have one. So I cannot test that.
>
>Exactly _what_ are you using, or did you use, to create these DVDs?

The old recorder I do not have anymore. Was from LG, IIRC.


>>>DVD recorders usually write VR discs of some description that need to be
>>>"finalised" on the recorder to make them readable by a computer or
>>>normal DVD player.
>>
>> What is the difference between VR and "normal"?
>
>These should give you some details about the differences:
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR_Mode>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-VR>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD+VR>
>
>> I tried to "finalize" such a DVD, but neither in the DVD recorder nor in K3b I
>> was able to find a menue item for this taksk.
>
>If Linux was unable to figure out what the disc contained, I'm not
>surprised that k3b can't finalise the disc. As for your recorder, it
>may have already finalised the disc when you asked for it to be
>ejected.

Well, that is what I had done. I also tried to do it with the video recorder,
but found no way. Only when burning a DVD the menue item "finalize" is shown.


>> If I put in a "foreign" DVD, I
>> find no way to "finalize" that.
>
>No surprise there as the disc will already be finalised.
>
>> It is really strange.
>
>My thought is that the DVD recorder has used their own propriety format
>which no one else understands.

Seems to be so. I wonder where I can switch that off. When burning a DVD in the
recorder that item is NOT shown...

Merci,

Aribert Deckers

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From: Happy Oyster on 6 Apr 2010 18:29
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:15:20 -0800, 1jam <com(a)example.net> wrote:

>Is vlc able to play them? It'll play anything. videolan.org

Yes. But it does not see a disc in the drive...

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