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From: JP Loken on 17 Dec 2008 17:06 P� Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:35:04 +0100, skrev Mike Easter <MikeE(a)ster.invalid>: <snip> > KernelEx. Avast. > > I run w98se and frequently encounter apps which don't support it, such as > FF3 and others which I want to use. > > So I installed KernelEx to enable me to use XP apps. That might work for > Avira or maybe not; in which case Avast would be a good choice. <snip> Thanks! I own a computer with W98SE, too. -- JP Loken Opera e-mail: http://www.opera.com/mail/ The best of the best in Freeware: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/
From: John Fitzsimons on 18 Dec 2008 08:11 On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:35:04 -0800, "Mike Easter" <MikeE(a)ster.invalid> wrote: >Teflon wrote: >User-Agent: G2/1.0 >> discontinued support of WIN98SE a while back, >> If updating Version 7 VDF's is not possible, any suggestions for a >> suitable AV (and AS?) alternatives that will run under WIN98SE? >KernelEx. Avast. >I run w98se and frequently encounter apps which don't support it, such as >FF3 and others which I want to use. >So I installed KernelEx to enable me to use XP apps. That might work for >Avira or maybe not; in which case Avast would be a good choice. < snip > You mean KernelEx at http://x86.neostrada.pl/KernelEx/ ? I installed it and then tried to install Firefox 3.05 . It complained that my system wasn't XP and wouldn't install. Though I had read elsewhere that Firefox WOULD install with that combination. I also tried VLC. It also wouldn't install, saying it needed Windows 2000 or newer. IMO this program doesn't work. :-( Regards, John.
From: Mike Easter on 18 Dec 2008 09:10 John Fitzsimons wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> I run w98se and frequently encounter apps which don't support it, such >> as FF3 and others which I want to use. > >> So I installed KernelEx to enable me to use XP apps. That might work >> for Avira or maybe not; in which case Avast would be a good choice. > > < snip > > > You mean KernelEx at http://x86.neostrada.pl/KernelEx/ ? Yes. KernelEx 0.3.6 + Unicows.dll 1.1.3790.0 from MS as described in the readme. > I installed it and then tried to install Firefox 3.05 . It complained > that my system wasn't XP and wouldn't install. Though I had read > elsewhere that Firefox WOULD install with that combination. That didn't happen to me when I installed FF 3.04. Also, 3.04 in w98se auto-updated itself recently to 3.05. > I also tried VLC. It also wouldn't install, saying it needed Windows > 2000 or newer. I don't know about that. I don't do much with mmedia. > IMO this program doesn't work. :-( FF3 was the main target I was after. There were some annoying glitches with Opera (all the 9+ v/s) that I was working around with K-Meleon, such as whacky display in slashdot. FF3 doesn't have that problem and I like it better than K-Meleon. I miss some of opera's features, but I can get over that. Also Wine in linux has been pretty good for me for the win apps I want over there. -- Mike Easter
From: John Fitzsimons on 21 Dec 2008 17:56 On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:10:27 -0800, "Mike Easter" <MikeE(a)ster.invalid> wrote: >John Fitzsimons wrote: >> "Mike Easter" >>> I run w98se and frequently encounter apps which don't support it, such >>> as FF3 and others which I want to use. >>> So I installed KernelEx to enable me to use XP apps. That might work >>> for Avira or maybe not; in which case Avast would be a good choice. >> < snip > >> You mean KernelEx at http://x86.neostrada.pl/KernelEx/ ? >Yes. KernelEx 0.3.6 + Unicows.dll 1.1.3790.0 from MS as described in the >readme. My KernelEx is 154 KB. Is that the same size as yours before extraction ? My Unicows is 261 KB. >> I installed it and then tried to install Firefox 3.05 . It complained >> that my system wasn't XP and wouldn't install. Though I had read >> elsewhere that Firefox WOULD install with that combination. >That didn't happen to me when I installed FF 3.04. Also, 3.04 in w98se >auto-updated itself recently to 3.05. < snip > Umm. Interesting, I am very curious as to why things don't work for me. How many copies of unicows.dll and unicows.pdb do you have on your system ? Where are they ? I put mine in the windows directory. Details are .... unicows.dll dll 252.30 KB 2004-12-07 unicows.pdb pdb 339.00 KB 2004-12-07 I installed unicows and then KernelEx. That's all. Is that all you did ? Or did you do it in reverse order and/or do something extra ? The reason I ask is because I didn't create the KEXVER.INI file and put it in Windows' directory (typically C:\WINDOWS\KEXVER.INI). Did you ? Regards, John.
From: Mike Easter on 22 Dec 2008 09:13 <I think your problem is where you put your unicows files.> John Fitzsimons wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> Yes. KernelEx 0.3.6 + Unicows.dll 1.1.3790.0 from MS as described in >> the readme. > > My KernelEx is 154 KB. > > Is that the same size as yours before extraction ? > > My Unicows is 261 KB. There is potential confusion talking about filesizes. KernelEx036.zip MD5 = 807c0df1bf3ae08011947bf4a059680c CRC32 = c5e42824 Unicows.exe MD5 = d030d8c3d1a46599230cac4ba70f5026 CRC32 = b19f6d5f I first installed (or maybe attempted to install) KernelEx. Then I executed unicows.exe. When the installer asked me where to put the file/s, I told it Windows/System. Maybe kernelex warned me (about unicows and where to install) when I tried to install that unicows was missing (or something). Repeat: Windows/Sytem - not Windows. > I put mine in the windows directory. Details are .... I put mine in the Windows/System. I don't recall where I got that information. I don't see it in the kernelex readme, and as I look around the web, I see confusion (some say Windows, some say Windows/System). > unicows.dll dll 252.30 KB 2004-12-07 > unicows.pdb pdb 339.00 KB 2004-12-07 Yes but in windows system. > I installed unicows and then KernelEx. That's all. Is that all you did > ? Or did you do it in reverse order and/or do something extra ? See above. Maybe kernelex stalled the first time when unicows was missing. Maybe kernelex looks to see if there is a unicows but doesn't 'require' its System path or something. > The reason I ask is because I didn't create the KEXVER.INI file and > put it in Windows' directory (typically C:\WINDOWS\KEXVER.INI). > Did you ? No. But kernelex related stuff is in the windows/system folder with that date of installation. http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=928 unicows.dll where to install? - Put in c:\windows\system. -- Mike Easter
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