BEST OS FOR IBOOK G3/500MHZ/384MB??
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From: abpp on 4 Jan 2010 01:38 I know 10.3 is better than 10.2, and 10.4 better than 10.3, but this is an old (2001) iBook G3/500mhz with DVD and only 384 MB of RAM that will not be upgraded for some time. So, which one would give me the less sluggishness for this configuration: 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4??? On Jan 3, 9:13 pm, Erik Richard Sørensen <NOS...(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > abpp wrote: > > What would be better to install in an old iBook G3/500mhz with 384 MB > > of RAM that I have for a 6 year old (to play DVDs and browse > > Disney.com and such): Mac OS 10.2.x or 10.3.x?? > > I'll even recommend either 10.3.9 or 10.4.11. I've had 10.4.11 running > on a 50mhz Pismo with very good results. Originally only with 384mb RAM > but later upgradet to 768mb... Anyway, 10.4.x is both faster and better > than 10.3.x... But you might have trouble finding a 10.4.c CD set, if > you haven't a DVD drive in the iBook. - If I remember right some of them > came with a CD/CD-R only and some with DVD-Read/CD-R... > > Cheers, Erik Richard > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manN...(a)Mstofanet.dk> > NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing -www.nisus.com > OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution -www.openoffice.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: David Empson on 4 Jan 2010 03:55 abpp <abpp(a)mail.com> wrote: > I know 10.3 is better than 10.2, and 10.4 better than 10.3, but this > is an old (2001) > iBook G3/500mhz with DVD and only 384 MB of RAM that will not be > upgraded for > some time. So, which one would give me the less sluggishness for this > configuration: > 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4??? Steer clear of 10.2. You gain nothing except frustration due to being limited to even older software. 10.3.9 if you aren't going to upgrade the memory. The BIG problem is that 10.3.9 is not able to run modern versions of mainstream web browsers. Safari on 10.3.9 is so old that it crashes when accessing many web sites. You can't easily get Firefox 2, and if you manage to locate a copy it is also getting rather out of date and may have unknown security issues and/or compatiiblity problems with various web sites. If you intend to use it for web browsing, 10.4 gives you a lot more options, and you may have to live with slow performance due to being tight on available memory. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 4 Jan 2010 04:00 abpp wrote: > I know 10.3 is better than 10.2, and 10.4 better than 10.3, but this > is an old (2001) > iBook G3/500mhz with DVD and only 384 MB of RAM that will not be > upgraded for > some time. So, which one would give me the less sluggishness for this > configuration: > 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4??? I can guarantee you that you can very well run 10.4.x even with 384mb of RAM. As already written I did it with a 500mhz Pismo PowerBook - also on the net, - also using both net-radio and net-TV. One thing you can do during the install process is to choose 'Custom' and skip anything other than English language (presuming English is the native spoken language), also skip _everything_ printer software. And then afterwards just install printer software for that exact needed printer and else nothing of all the apprx. 1 gig of useless printersoftware. Regarding the languages, if you are speaking English natively, just install English, but if you for example are speaking German as your native language, I'll recommend to install both German and English. - I.e. the native language + the English. And surely do indeed not install the Asian languages unless one of these is the native spoken language. - Alone the Chinese fonts are taking up more than 2gb of space. When/if you 'strip' the installation this way, I guarantee that you will get one of the fastest 500mhz 10.4.x G3 machines at all - even with only 384mb of RAM! When it comes to the internet... I will not recommend Safari nor Firefox. Both are simply too heavy to work with on many sites. Get the latest possible version of Opera instead - first of all because it's screamingly fast and next you can fake MSIE-only sites to believe that you are using MSIE with Opera. Cheers, Erik Richard > On Jan 3, 8:02 pm, demp...(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: >> Geoffrey S. Mendelson <g...(a)cable.mendelson.com> wrote: >>> abpp wrote: >>>> What would be better to install in an old iBook G3/500mhz with 384 MB >>>> of RAM that I have for a 6 year old (to play DVDs and browse >>>> Disney.com and such): Mac OS 10.2.x or 10.3.x?? >>> Tiger. It will allow you to use a recent version of Safari or Firefox >>> to browse Disney.com, and VLC to play DVDs. >> I'd modify that slightly: Tiger (10.4) with a RAM upgrade to 640 MB to >> get better performance. It will be painfully sluggish with 384 MB if you >> are doing any significant web browsing. >> >> DVD playback should be fine on even older versions of Mac OS X (using >> DVD player, if VLC doesn't work), or with only 384 MB on Tiger. >> >>> It WON'T be fast enough to play the videos on the site, you may have a >>> very frustrated child. >> Agreed. (Even with a RAM upgrade.) >> >>> I would not waste my time with 10.2 or 10.3 neither of which will support a >>> new enough browser. >> Agreed. Safari 1.3.2 (Jan 2006) is having an increasing degree of >> compatibility problems with web sites, resulting in crashes. Firefox >> 2.0.0.20 (Dec 2008) was the last version which ran on 10.3.9, and it is >> not being distributed any more. >> >> The only current browsers I know of which still work on 10.3.9 are iCab >> and Opera. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 4 Jan 2010 04:04 Sure this will be the 10.4.x if you follow the instruction I've just answered in hte other post. - Use custom install and only install English if it's yur native language - else the native language + English and skip all the printer software and install the needed printer afterwards. - I can add to the last answer that I've installed 10.4 as low as on 233mhz G3s with 256-360mb of RAM and none of them have had problems neither with DVDs nor on the net! Cheers, Erik Richard abpp wrote: > I know 10.3 is better than 10.2, and 10.4 better than 10.3, but this > is an old (2001) > iBook G3/500mhz with DVD and only 384 MB of RAM that will not be > upgraded for > some time. So, which one would give me the less sluggishness for this > configuration: > 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4??? > > On Jan 3, 9:13 pm, Erik Richard Sørensen <NOS...(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: >> abpp wrote: >>> What would be better to install in an old iBook G3/500mhz with 384 MB >>> of RAM that I have for a 6 year old (to play DVDs and browse >>> Disney.com and such): Mac OS 10.2.x or 10.3.x?? >> I'll even recommend either 10.3.9 or 10.4.11. I've had 10.4.11 running >> on a 50mhz Pismo with very good results. Originally only with 384mb RAM >> but later upgradet to 768mb... Anyway, 10.4.x is both faster and better >> than 10.3.x... But you might have trouble finding a 10.4.c CD set, if >> you haven't a DVD drive in the iBook. - If I remember right some of them >> came with a CD/CD-R only and some with DVD-Read/CD-R... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: JF Mezei on 4 Jan 2010 04:21
I had 10.4 on my 350mhz G3. Can't remember how much RAM it had. You can find cheap RAM on the internet if you woish to boost it. Maximum disk size for that vintage is 128gigs. I bought a 160 gig drive and it showed up as 128 gig. |