From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
abpp wrote:
> I know 10.3 is better than 10.2, and 10.4 better than 10.3, but this
> is an old (2001)
> iBook G3/500mhz with DVD and only 384 MB of RAM that will not be
> upgraded for
> some time. So, which one would give me the less sluggishness for this
> configuration:
> 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4???

It's not a matter of slugishness, it's a mater of ability to do what you asked.

Quite simpley you won't be able to access the Disney.com web page with a
browser that runs on anything less than Tiger. It will crash, hang up or
render the pages incorrectly. Not much of a loss, IMHO, but the flash videos
which are all over the sight, won't play anyway.

You won't be able to find a current flash player, and if you could the
computer will be too slow to decode them.

To answer your question anyway, with 384M of RAM, Tiger will be faster than
anything before it. Each release of MacOS has had it's minimum memory needed
increased, but it's performance with that minimum or near it, has gotten better.

Geoff.


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From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

JF Mezei wrote:
> I had 10.4 on my 350mhz G3. Can't remember how much RAM it had. You can
> find cheap RAM on the internet if you woish to boost it.
>
> Maximum disk size for that vintage is 128gigs. I bought a 160 gig drive
> and it showed up as 128 gig.

Eeh? - We're not talking about desktops but about a 500mhz iBook... I
have never heard that neither the Pismo 500 nor the iBook 500mhz had the
128gb limit. I replaced the ordinary 60gb disk with a TravelStar 160gb
and it showed all the space - partitined 60+100gb for OS 9.2.x and OS X
10.4.11. I still needed (and still does) the OS 9.x bootability and so
did he, who I sold it to 2 years ago...

cheers, Erik Richard

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From: abpp on
Ok. I'll upgrade to 10.3 since I don't really think 10.4 will cut it
with this little machine, and 10.2 seems too slow now.

Thanks!



On Jan 4, 7:24 am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...(a)cable.mendelson.com>
wrote:
> abpp wrote:
> > I know 10.3 is better than 10.2, and 10.4 better than 10.3, but this
> > is an old (2001)
> > iBook G3/500mhz with DVD and only 384 MB of RAM that will not be
> > upgraded for
> > some time. So, which one would give me the less sluggishness for this
> > configuration:
> > 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4???
>
> It's not a matter of slugishness, it's a mater of ability to do what you asked.
>
> Quite simpley you won't be able to access the Disney.com web page with a
> browser that runs on anything less than Tiger. It will crash, hang up or
> render the pages incorrectly. Not much of a loss, IMHO, but the flash videos
> which are all over the sight, won't play anyway.
>
> You won't be able to find a current flash player, and if you could the
> computer will be too slow to decode them.
>
> To answer your question anyway, with 384M of RAM, Tiger will be faster than
> anything before it. Each release of MacOS has had it's minimum memory needed
> increased, but it's performance with that minimum or near it, has gotten better.
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...(a)mendelson.com  N3OWJ/4X1GM
> New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or
> understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation.
> i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia.

From: isw on
In article <slrnhk3n68.9oc.gsm(a)cable.mendelson.com>,
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm(a)cable.mendelson.com> wrote:

> abpp wrote:
> > I know 10.3 is better than 10.2, and 10.4 better than 10.3, but this
> > is an old (2001)
> > iBook G3/500mhz with DVD and only 384 MB of RAM that will not be
> > upgraded for
> > some time. So, which one would give me the less sluggishness for this
> > configuration:
> > 10.2, 10.3, or 10.4???
>
> It's not a matter of slugishness, it's a mater of ability to do what you
> asked.
>
> Quite simpley you won't be able to access the Disney.com web page with a
> browser that runs on anything less than Tiger. It will crash, hang up or
> render the pages incorrectly. Not much of a loss, IMHO, but the flash videos
> which are all over the sight, won't play anyway.
>
> You won't be able to find a current flash player, and if you could the
> computer will be too slow to decode them.
>
> To answer your question anyway, with 384M of RAM, Tiger will be faster than
> anything before it. Each release of MacOS has had it's minimum memory needed
> increased, but it's performance with that minimum or near it, has gotten
> better.

I have 10.4 on a 400 MHz Pismo with 128 MB of RAM. Totally stable, but a
bit sluggish when changing context. As others have said, 10.4 is faster
and smaller than it's predecessors.

Isaac
From: isw on
In article <4b41ae21$0$4805$ba624c82(a)nntp02.dk.telia.net>,
Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> When/if you 'strip' the installation this way, I guarantee that you will
> get one of the fastest 500mhz 10.4.x G3 machines at all - even with only
> 384mb of RAM!

Now I'm curious: why does leaving all those extra languages and printer
drivers off the disk make the machine go faster?

Can I just go in and delete them at any time, or do I have to reinstall?

I have a 400 MHz Pismo that could be more useful if it was a bit more
speedy.

Isaac