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In article <i0sqdt01an1(a)news5.newsguy.com>, J. Clarke
<jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote:

> Excel was originally Microsoft's Mac spreadsheet, got ported to Windows.

microsoft had a version of multiplan for the mac prior to excel.

it wasn't particularly good, which is what prompted them to start from
scratch and write excel to take full advantage of the mac interface,
rather than trying to port and update multiplan that was not really
designed for a gui.
From: Peter on
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message
news:i0sqdu01an2(a)news5.newsguy.com...
> On 7/5/2010 12:12 AM, tony cooper wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 00:04:16 -0400, "Peter"
>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> WordPerfect wasn't as good as Microsoft, but was better than Lotus.
>>>
>>> Lotus was never intended to be a word processor.
>>
>> That statement jarred me, but I think he was thinking about Lotus's
>> dedicated word processing module. Was it Lotus Notes? At one time I
>> had "SmartSuite" and I think it had a word processing module. The
>> spreadsheet module is "Lotus 1-2-3" (which I still use).
>
> There was Lotus Manuscript, which I tried to look at but the question was
> how the laser printer output looked and Lotus disabled printing in the
> demo version and the authorized Lotus dealer didn't have a live copy set
> up. The authorized Microsoft dealer, however, did have a live copy of
> Word set up and I was able to test it and found out that it did what I
> needed.
>


Back to poor marketing. At the rollout of OS/2 and subsequent events IBM had
no full functioning demos.

--
Peter

From: John Navas on
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:44:22 -0400, in
<4c3202c5$0$5546$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, "Peter"
<peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:

>"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message
>news:i0sqdu01an2(a)news5.newsguy.com...
>> On 7/5/2010 12:12 AM, tony cooper wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 00:04:16 -0400, "Peter"
>>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> WordPerfect wasn't as good as Microsoft, but was better than Lotus.
>>>>
>>>> Lotus was never intended to be a word processor.
>>>
>>> That statement jarred me, but I think he was thinking about Lotus's
>>> dedicated word processing module. Was it Lotus Notes? At one time I
>>> had "SmartSuite" and I think it had a word processing module. The
>>> spreadsheet module is "Lotus 1-2-3" (which I still use).
>>
>> There was Lotus Manuscript, which I tried to look at but the question was
>> how the laser printer output looked and Lotus disabled printing in the
>> demo version and the authorized Lotus dealer didn't have a live copy set
>> up. The authorized Microsoft dealer, however, did have a live copy of
>> Word set up and I was able to test it and found out that it did what I
>> needed.
>
>Back to poor marketing. At the rollout of OS/2 and subsequent events IBM had
>no full functioning demos.

That goes all the way back to IBM's messy divorce from Microsoft.
As good as OS/2 was in many ways, there was too much Big Blue
thinking in it for it to ever become a big hit. By the time
Warp came along, the game was effectively over. RIP.

--
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

"At every crossway on the road that leads to the future, each progressive
spirit is opposed by a thousand men appointed to guard the past." -Maeterlinck
From: Peter on
"John Turco" <jtur(a)concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Peter wrote:
>>
>> "John Turco" <jtur(a)concentric.net> wrote in message
>> news:4C2AB5F3.9E1440FE(a)concentric.net...
>> > Neil Harrington wrote:
>> >
>> > <heavily edited for brevity>
>> >
>> >> The Great Megapixel Race serves no purpose as far as I can see except
>> >> to
>> >> help
>> >> manufacturers sell more cameras to people who think their pictures
>> >> aren't
>> >> sharp
>> >> because they don't have enough megapixels.
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey, don't forget the hard disk manufacturers! They're the ones that
>> > are
>> > really cashing in on this "Great Megapixel Race" -- as those larger (in
>> > file size) images demand increasing storage space.
>> >
>> > At the moment, I'm feeling the crunch, personally. I've barely over
>> > 14GB free, on my 160GB IDE data drive. (A 500GB SATA puppy is ready to
>> > be installed, but...I won't do it, until I purchase a suitable external
>> > HDD, to back it up.)
>> >
>>
>> Yup! I learned about backup the hard way. Now I am anal about it.
>> You can get a 2 terabyte external SATA for under $150.
>> Enclosure prices are under $20. I use a series of WD USB, because I had
>> them.
>
>
> I'm aiming for a 1TB eSATA drive, in the near future. eBay is the place,
> to find bargains on such an item; I should be able to get one, at about
> $100 USD or so.
>


Heck that's expensive. Look at Microcenter. I have been dealing with them
for years and have found them to always be reliable. they may not always
have the lowest prices, but dealing with them has worked for me. Besides, I
live about 15 min from one of their brick & mortar stores. Also, check B&H,
they are also reliable.

--
Peter