From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa on
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:

> Doug Barton wrote on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800:
>> Martin Cracauer wrote:
>>> It's time to bite the bullet. My 1.3 GHz Pentium-M Notebook just
>>> can't keep up with the port building. I need OpenOffice and stuff and
>>> the party is really over at that point. I need something with binary
>>> packages.
>>>
>>> Do I understand that correctly if I run 8.0 release I get to have
>>> prebuilt binaries as recognized by portupgrade?
>>
>> Well, 8-release or 8-stable should both be fine for this purpose, for
>> most packages, with portupgrade or portmaster. My understanding is
>> that we've given up trying to produce packages for openoffice on all
>> branches.
>
> Are you saying there are binary packages for 8-stable?
>
> I thought I can only have them for -RELEASE?
>
>>> What happens to the minor security updates? Can I follow TRELENG_8_0
>>> and port portsupgrade recognize this as something that uses 8-release
>>> binary packages?
>>
>> RELENG_8_0 is _exactly_ 8.0-RELEASE, and will never change. If you
>> want 8-stable, RELENG_8 is the way to go. Otherwise you will need to
>> update the tag each time a new security branch is created.
>
> RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
> portupgrade is concerned.
>
> RELENG_8_0 will have emergency fixes AFAIK and I was hoping that I
> could run that and make portupgrade to the right thing (recognize the
> binary packages a insert them appropriately).
>
> If we have binary packages for 8-stable and/or if I can coerce
> portupgrade to use 8-release packages on 8-stable that would be fine,
> too.
>
> Martin
Have a look at porting.openoffice.org/freebsd .
You will find something that works for you.

Greetings

Uli.




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From: Freddie Cash on
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Freddie Cash <fjwcash(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Have a read through the ports man page and the pkg_add man page. Pay
> attention to the PACKAGESITE environment variable.
>
> This variable tells pkg_add (and portupgrade, and portmaster) where to
> search for binary packages.
>
> By default, this is set to
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-X-release/Latest/
>
> where X is the version of FreeBSD installed (7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, etc).
>
> All you have to do is change it to use "packages-8-stable" instead of
> "packages-8.0-release", and it will search for, and install, binary packages
> that were built on 8-STABLE.
>
> Note: one should be using a release version that is as close to -STABLE as
> possible. IOW, the latest release on that branch (6.4 if you want 6-stable
> packages, 7.2 if you want 7-stable packages, 8.0 if you want 8-stable
> packages). That minimises the number and size of changes between -release
> and -stable, and will keep things running smoothly.
>
> Note 2: be sure to set the correct architecture as well. Change the
"i386" to "amd64" if you have the 64-bit amd64/x86_64 version of FreeBSD
installed.

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From: Erwin Lansing on
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> Martin Cracauer wrote:
> > It's time to bite the bullet. My 1.3 GHz Pentium-M Notebook just
> > can't keep up with the port building. I need OpenOffice and stuff and
> > the party is really over at that point. I need something with binary
> > packages.
> >
> > Do I understand that correctly if I run 8.0 release I get to have
> > prebuilt binaries as recognized by portupgrade?
>
> Well, 8-release or 8-stable should both be fine for this purpose, for
> most packages, with portupgrade or portmaster. My understanding is
> that we've given up trying to produce packages for openoffice on all
> branches.
>
I'm sorry to say this, Doug, because I know you mean well, but this is
not the first time you act as a spokeman for things you have no
knowledge about and, again, get things wrong. Please stick to things
you do know.

Openoffice builds are attempted at all supported branches and platforms
on each and every run. Unfortunately, they quite often fail due to
several reasons, ranging from the code being quite large and
complicated, and therefore very fragile, to too small hardware on some
of the cluster nodes. The unfortunate end-result is therefore that
finished packages are very sporadicaly available and the dedicated
project mentioned in another reply in this thread is probably a better
source, but we do use a large amount of resources to get those packages
out there and have certainly not given up.

-erwin

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From: Mark Linimon on
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> My understanding is that we've given up trying to produce packages for
> openoffice on all branches.

I have no idea who told you this, but it is completely false.

mcl
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From: Doug Barton on
Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
>> My understanding is that we've given up trying to produce packages for
>> openoffice on all branches.
>
> I have no idea who told you this, but it is completely false.

Forgetting what I've heard and who I've heard it from, let's look
simply at the practical results. There have not been openoffice
packages available on a consistent basis for years, and haven't been
any at all that I've seen for the last several months, and I've been
looking for them.

Given that the problems with building openoffice packages are all well
known, and haven't really changed in the last several years, the only
rational conclusion is to assume that we've stopped trying. Which, by
the way, is fine, I don't see openoffice packages as a rational use of
(limited, valuable) project resources, particularly when other good
alternatives exist.

My interest was in letting Martin know that if he expected to find
openoffice packages (which he mentioned specifically) that he wasn't
going to, and I felt it only fair that he know that going in.


Doug

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