From: Doug Barton on
Erwin Lansing wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
>> Well, 8-release or 8-stable should both be fine for this purpose, for
>> most packages, with portupgrade or portmaster. My understanding is
>> that we've given up trying to produce packages for openoffice on all
>> branches.
>>
> I'm sorry to say this, Doug, because I know you mean well, but this is
> not the first time you act as a spokeman for things you have no
> knowledge about and, again, get things wrong. Please stick to things
> you do know.

Maybe this is a translation problem, but when someone says, "My
understanding is ..." that's exactly how it should be read. I'm not
attempting to act as a spokesman for anything, nor did I claim to be,
and I don't think anyone (including Martin) is going to mistake me for
a member of portmgr.

If you want to prove me wrong, get some packages up there, no one will
be happier than me, since I've been looking for them for several
months now. :)


Doug

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From: John Hay on
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 11:37:00PM +0100, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:
>
> >Doug Barton wrote on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800:
> >>Martin Cracauer wrote:
> >>>It's time to bite the bullet. My 1.3 GHz Pentium-M Notebook just
> >>>can't keep up with the port building. I need OpenOffice and stuff and
> >>>the party is really over at that point. I need something with binary
> >>>packages.
> >>>
> >>>Do I understand that correctly if I run 8.0 release I get to have
> >>>prebuilt binaries as recognized by portupgrade?
> >>
> >>Well, 8-release or 8-stable should both be fine for this purpose, for
> >>most packages, with portupgrade or portmaster. My understanding is
> >>that we've given up trying to produce packages for openoffice on all
> >>branches.
> >
> >Are you saying there are binary packages for 8-stable?
> >
> >I thought I can only have them for -RELEASE?
> >
> >>>What happens to the minor security updates? Can I follow TRELENG_8_0
> >>>and port portsupgrade recognize this as something that uses 8-release
> >>>binary packages?
> >>
> >>RELENG_8_0 is _exactly_ 8.0-RELEASE, and will never change. If you
> >>want 8-stable, RELENG_8 is the way to go. Otherwise you will need to
> >>update the tag each time a new security branch is created.
> >
> >RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
> >portupgrade is concerned.
> >
> >RELENG_8_0 will have emergency fixes AFAIK and I was hoping that I
> >could run that and make portupgrade to the right thing (recognize the
> >binary packages a insert them appropriately).
> >
> >If we have binary packages for 8-stable and/or if I can coerce
> >portupgrade to use 8-release packages on 8-stable that would be fine,
> >too.
> >
> >Martin
> Have a look at porting.openoffice.org/freebsd .
> You will find something that works for you.

It depends on what you have. Say you have 8.0 i386 or even 7.2 i386. No
binaries for you there then.

John
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From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa on
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, John Hay wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 11:37:00PM +0100, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:
>>
>>> Doug Barton wrote on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800:
>>>> Martin Cracauer wrote:
>>>>> It's time to bite the bullet. My 1.3 GHz Pentium-M Notebook just
>>>>> can't keep up with the port building. I need OpenOffice and stuff and
>>>>> the party is really over at that point. I need something with binary
>>>>> packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I understand that correctly if I run 8.0 release I get to have
>>>>> prebuilt binaries as recognized by portupgrade?
>>>>
>>>> Well, 8-release or 8-stable should both be fine for this purpose, for
>>>> most packages, with portupgrade or portmaster. My understanding is
>>>> that we've given up trying to produce packages for openoffice on all
>>>> branches.
>>>
>>> Are you saying there are binary packages for 8-stable?
>>>
>>> I thought I can only have them for -RELEASE?
>>>
>>>>> What happens to the minor security updates? Can I follow TRELENG_8_0
>>>>> and port portsupgrade recognize this as something that uses 8-release
>>>>> binary packages?
>>>>
>>>> RELENG_8_0 is _exactly_ 8.0-RELEASE, and will never change. If you
>>>> want 8-stable, RELENG_8 is the way to go. Otherwise you will need to
>>>> update the tag each time a new security branch is created.
>>>
>>> RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
>>> portupgrade is concerned.
>>>
>>> RELENG_8_0 will have emergency fixes AFAIK and I was hoping that I
>>> could run that and make portupgrade to the right thing (recognize the
>>> binary packages a insert them appropriately).
>>>
>>> If we have binary packages for 8-stable and/or if I can coerce
>>> portupgrade to use 8-release packages on 8-stable that would be fine,
>>> too.
>>>
>>> Martin
>> Have a look at porting.openoffice.org/freebsd .
>> You will find something that works for you.
>
> It depends on what you have. Say you have 8.0 i386 or even 7.2 i386. No
> binaries for you there then.
I have to admit, I have got an amd64.
But you might be able to run the 7.1 -STABLE version with
misc/compat7 installed.

Did you try?

Greetings

Uli

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From: Christer Solskogen on
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Doug Barton <dougb(a)freebsd.org> wrote:
> Martin Cracauer wrote:
>> Doug Barton wrote on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800:
>> Are you saying there are binary packages for 8-stable?
>>
>> I thought I can only have them for -RELEASE?
>
> There have always been binary packages for the -stable branches. For
> example check out ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/.
>
>> RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
>> portupgrade is concerned.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand that sentence.
>
>> RELENG_8_0 will have emergency fixes AFAIK
>
> I'm sorry, that's not correct. RELENG_8_0 is a fixed point in time.
> The 8.0 -p1 security branch will be RELENG_8_1, etc.
>

I do not agree on this one. RELENG_8_0 is the correct tag for
following FreeBSD 8.0 with security fixes. RELENG_8_0_0_RELEASE on the
other hand is fixed. RELENG_8_1 will be the branch for FreeBSD 8.1.

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From: Gary Jennejohn on
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:45:05 -0800
Doug Barton <dougb(a)FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> Martin Cracauer wrote:
> > RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
> > portupgrade is concerned.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand that sentence.
>

I would guess this should read "will be left out of..." Follows logically
from his concern that there are no binary packages for -STABLE.

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