From: Martin Cracauer on
Gary Jennejohn wrote on Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 04:31:48PM +0100:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:45:05 -0800
> Doug Barton <dougb(a)FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>
> > Martin Cracauer wrote:
> > > RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
> > > portupgrade is concerned.
> >
> > Sorry, I don't understand that sentence.
> >
>
> I would guess this should read "will be left out of..." Follows logically
> from his concern that there are no binary packages for -STABLE.

Right. I meant going -stable will "lift me out of binary ports
[support]".

So the verdict is to hunt down OpenOffice packages manually and
install them so that portupgrade ignores them, then go from there.

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/
seems to have what `portupgrade -P` should expect, right?

So I wouldn't have to move from stable to release+sec.

Martin
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From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa on
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:
>
> So the verdict is to hunt down OpenOffice packages manually and
> install them so that portupgrade ignores them, then go from there.
>
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/
> seems to have what `portupgrade -P` should expect, right?
>
> So I wouldn't have to move from stable to release+sec.
I wonder if people who succeed in building OOo (happens about
twice a year to me) could put their packages on some kind of ftp
server. From their mailing list I get the impression OOo-porting
team could need all kind of help.

Greetings

Uli.

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From: Martin Cracauer on
Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote on Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 08:46:38PM +0100:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:
> >
> >So the verdict is to hunt down OpenOffice packages manually and
> >install them so that portupgrade ignores them, then go from there.
> >
> >ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/
> >seems to have what `portupgrade -P` should expect, right?
> >
> >So I wouldn't have to move from stable to release+sec.
> I wonder if people who succeed in building OOo (happens about
> twice a year to me) could put their packages on some kind of ftp
> server. From their mailing list I get the impression OOo-porting
> team could need all kind of help.

Might be easier to just slam a Debian into a chroot.

How do chroot and Linuxulator play together, anyway? Can I have a
random-Linux in /compat/linux and then have a different one in
/compat/linux/var/chroot/debian
?

Alternatively I could just leave this poor notebook alone WRT building
and run the same FreeBSD on one of my beefier machines to build binary
packages and share the successes. Would probably involve two complete
installations, one with a ports tree that only ever builds OO (and
pulls in it's dependencies but nothing else).

Martin
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From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa on
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:

> Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote on Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 08:46:38PM +0100:
>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:
>>>
>>> So the verdict is to hunt down OpenOffice packages manually and
>>> install them so that portupgrade ignores them, then go from there.
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/
>>> seems to have what `portupgrade -P` should expect, right?
>>>
>>> So I wouldn't have to move from stable to release+sec.
>> I wonder if people who succeed in building OOo (happens about
>> twice a year to me) could put their packages on some kind of ftp
>> server. From their mailing list I get the impression OOo-porting
>> team could need all kind of help.
>
> Might be easier to just slam a Debian into a chroot.
>
> How do chroot and Linuxulator play together, anyway? Can I have a
> random-Linux in /compat/linux and then have a different one in
> /compat/linux/var/chroot/debian
> ?
>
> Alternatively I could just leave this poor notebook alone WRT building
> and run the same FreeBSD on one of my beefier machines to build binary
> packages and share the successes. Would probably involve two complete
> installations, one with a ports tree that only ever builds OO (and
> pulls in it's dependencies but nothing else).
If you manage to install OOo in Linuxolator, please
publish some kind of HOWTO...

Today I started an experiment: I created a jail as a "clean"
build enviroment for OOo. Yet it has installed 145 dependencies
and not even started building OOo.

Greetings

Uli.


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From: Martin Cracauer on
Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote on Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 09:43:21PM +0100:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:
>
> >Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote on Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 08:46:38PM +0100:
> >>On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Martin Cracauer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>So the verdict is to hunt down OpenOffice packages manually and
> >>>install them so that portupgrade ignores them, then go from there.
> >>>
> >>>ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/
> >>>seems to have what `portupgrade -P` should expect, right?
> >>>
> >>>So I wouldn't have to move from stable to release+sec.
> >>I wonder if people who succeed in building OOo (happens about
> >>twice a year to me) could put their packages on some kind of ftp
> >>server. From their mailing list I get the impression OOo-porting
> >>team could need all kind of help.
> >
> >Might be easier to just slam a Debian into a chroot.
> >
> >How do chroot and Linuxulator play together, anyway? Can I have a
> >random-Linux in /compat/linux and then have a different one in
> >/compat/linux/var/chroot/debian
> >?
> >
> >Alternatively I could just leave this poor notebook alone WRT building
> >and run the same FreeBSD on one of my beefier machines to build binary
> >packages and share the successes. Would probably involve two complete
> >installations, one with a ports tree that only ever builds OO (and
> >pulls in it's dependencies but nothing else).
>
> If you manage to install OOo in Linuxolator, please
> publish some kind of HOWTO...

If there is a serious question WRT it does run in the Linux emulator
that would be easy enough to test, I can just NFS-mount one of my
diskless Debians.

> Today I started an experiment: I created a jail as a "clean"
> build enviroment for OOo. Yet it has installed 145 dependencies
> and not even started building OOo.

I expected nothing less.

The Java requirement is particularly annoying on FreeBSD. And all
that do get a Powerpoint clone with drunker mouse pointer syndrome
written in tcl...

Martin
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