From: Martin Cracauer on
It's time to bite the bullet. My 1.3 GHz Pentium-M Notebook just
can't keep up with the port building. I need OpenOffice and stuff and
the party is really over at that point. I need something with binary
packages.

Do I understand that correctly if I run 8.0 release I get to have
prebuilt binaries as recognized by portupgrade?

What happens to the minor security updates? Can I follow TRELENG_8_0
and port portsupgrade recognize this as something that uses 8-release
binary packages?

Any other recommendations?

Martin
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From: Doug Barton on
Martin Cracauer wrote:
> It's time to bite the bullet. My 1.3 GHz Pentium-M Notebook just
> can't keep up with the port building. I need OpenOffice and stuff and
> the party is really over at that point. I need something with binary
> packages.
>
> Do I understand that correctly if I run 8.0 release I get to have
> prebuilt binaries as recognized by portupgrade?

Well, 8-release or 8-stable should both be fine for this purpose, for
most packages, with portupgrade or portmaster. My understanding is
that we've given up trying to produce packages for openoffice on all
branches.

> What happens to the minor security updates? Can I follow TRELENG_8_0
> and port portsupgrade recognize this as something that uses 8-release
> binary packages?

RELENG_8_0 is _exactly_ 8.0-RELEASE, and will never change. If you
want 8-stable, RELENG_8 is the way to go. Otherwise you will need to
update the tag each time a new security branch is created.


hth,

Doug

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From: Martin Cracauer on
Doug Barton wrote on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800:
> Martin Cracauer wrote:
> > It's time to bite the bullet. My 1.3 GHz Pentium-M Notebook just
> > can't keep up with the port building. I need OpenOffice and stuff and
> > the party is really over at that point. I need something with binary
> > packages.
> >
> > Do I understand that correctly if I run 8.0 release I get to have
> > prebuilt binaries as recognized by portupgrade?
>
> Well, 8-release or 8-stable should both be fine for this purpose, for
> most packages, with portupgrade or portmaster. My understanding is
> that we've given up trying to produce packages for openoffice on all
> branches.

Are you saying there are binary packages for 8-stable?

I thought I can only have them for -RELEASE?

> > What happens to the minor security updates? Can I follow TRELENG_8_0
> > and port portsupgrade recognize this as something that uses 8-release
> > binary packages?
>
> RELENG_8_0 is _exactly_ 8.0-RELEASE, and will never change. If you
> want 8-stable, RELENG_8 is the way to go. Otherwise you will need to
> update the tag each time a new security branch is created.

RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
portupgrade is concerned.

RELENG_8_0 will have emergency fixes AFAIK and I was hoping that I
could run that and make portupgrade to the right thing (recognize the
binary packages a insert them appropriately).

If we have binary packages for 8-stable and/or if I can coerce
portupgrade to use 8-release packages on 8-stable that would be fine,
too.

Martin
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From: Freddie Cash on
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Martin Cracauer <cracauer(a)cons.org> wrote:

> Doug Barton wrote on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800:
> > Martin Cracauer wrote:
> > > It's time to bite the bullet. My 1.3 GHz Pentium-M Notebook just
> > > can't keep up with the port building. I need OpenOffice and stuff and
> > > the party is really over at that point. I need something with binary
> > > packages.
> > >
> > > Do I understand that correctly if I run 8.0 release I get to have
> > > prebuilt binaries as recognized by portupgrade?
> >
> > Well, 8-release or 8-stable should both be fine for this purpose, for
> > most packages, with portupgrade or portmaster. My understanding is
> > that we've given up trying to produce packages for openoffice on all
> > branches.
>
> Are you saying there are binary packages for 8-stable?
>
> I thought I can only have them for -RELEASE?
>
> > > What happens to the minor security updates? Can I follow TRELENG_8_0
> > > and port portsupgrade recognize this as something that uses 8-release
> > > binary packages?
> >
> > RELENG_8_0 is _exactly_ 8.0-RELEASE, and will never change. If you
> > want 8-stable, RELENG_8 is the way to go. Otherwise you will need to
> > update the tag each time a new security branch is created.
>
> RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
> portupgrade is concerned.
>
> RELENG_8_0 will have emergency fixes AFAIK and I was hoping that I
> could run that and make portupgrade to the right thing (recognize the
> binary packages a insert them appropriately).
>
> If we have binary packages for 8-stable and/or if I can coerce
> portupgrade to use 8-release packages on 8-stable that would be fine,
> too.
>
> Have a read through the ports man page and the pkg_add man page. Pay
attention to the PACKAGESITE environment variable.

This variable tells pkg_add (and portupgrade, and portmaster) where to
search for binary packages.

By default, this is set to
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-X-release/Latest/

where X is the version of FreeBSD installed (7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, etc).

All you have to do is change it to use "packages-8-stable" instead of
"packages-8.0-release", and it will search for, and install, binary packages
that were built on 8-STABLE.

Note: one should be using a release version that is as close to -STABLE as
possible. IOW, the latest release on that branch (6.4 if you want 6-stable
packages, 7.2 if you want 7-stable packages, 8.0 if you want 8-stable
packages). That minimises the number and size of changes between -release
and -stable, and will keep things running smoothly.


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From: Doug Barton on
Martin Cracauer wrote:
> Doug Barton wrote on Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:58:57PM -0800:
> Are you saying there are binary packages for 8-stable?
>
> I thought I can only have them for -RELEASE?

There have always been binary packages for the -stable branches. For
example check out ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/.

> RELENG_8 will lift be out of binary ports, at least as far as
> portupgrade is concerned.

Sorry, I don't understand that sentence.

> RELENG_8_0 will have emergency fixes AFAIK

I'm sorry, that's not correct. RELENG_8_0 is a fixed point in time.
The 8.0 -p1 security branch will be RELENG_8_1, etc.

> and I was hoping that I
> could run that and make portupgrade to the right thing (recognize the
> binary packages a insert them appropriately).

If you run a -RELEASE portupgrade will stick to the packages created
for the -RELEASE, and will never change. If you intend to follow the
ports tree as it updates you should really be following FreeBSD
stable, and portupgrade will do the right thing.

> If we have binary packages for 8-stable and/or if I can coerce
> portupgrade to use 8-release packages on 8-stable that would be fine,
> too.

If you want 8-release packages, you don't have to do anything
different, those packages will never change.


hope this helps,

Doug

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