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From: Daniel Mandic on 12 Feb 2010 09:16 Spamblk wrote: > Windows I would have to purchase/upgrade new hardware as well as the > software. You must be joking... New Hardware started to make linux interesting at all ;-). [slooooow...] -- Daniel Mandic
From: KristleBawl on 12 Feb 2010 11:21 Spamblk expressed an opinion: > =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?=<boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in >> I find Windows� users unhappy about a lot of things with it, but >> inertia and other factors keep them from really giving something >> else a try. There are good, free alternatives to check out if >> anyone's so inclined. I'm much happier using the system that I now >> have than I ever was when using Windows�. > > I am happy enough with linux; for me to use the latest Microsoft > Windows I would have to purchase/upgrade new hardware as well as the > software. That said the fact I also rely on WINE is indicative of the > the success of Windows which IMHO can't be denied. That's true, the hardware upgrades can be a major influence on preferred software. My Win98SE OEM was great for 9 years, so I had to choose between new hardware or learning a new OS. I chose to save up for a new Vista OEM, which I expect to keep running smoothly for at least 8 years. For *my* needs, Vista is fantastic! Years from now, when Vista is nearing the end of support, I will probably look for another Linux demo machine at the store before deciding on my next computer. I'm sure, by then, Linux and Windows will both have changed a lot. -- Two silk worms had a race. They ended up in a tie. KristleBawl's Taglines by Tagzilla 0.066.2 http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla Instabird development http://www.instantbird.com/
From: »Q« on 12 Feb 2010 21:24 In <news:Xns9D1D2C3C964AAbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net>, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote: > Wine is a software stealing program. No, it's not. Info about what Wine is can be found at <http://www.winehq.org/>. > If Linux wants to develop a software stealing program like Wine, "Linux" doesn't want to develop a program like Wine. Linux is a kernel. "Linux" is also often used to refer to the combination of that kernel with other software to make an operating system. With neither sense of the word does it make sense to say that Linux wants to develop a program like Wine. The Wine developers (see link above) want to develop a program like Wine. HTH.
From: mike on 12 Feb 2010 22:05 Spamblk wrote: > =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= <boxcars(a)gmx.net> wrote in > news:20100208221346.6d78297c(a)bellgrove.remarqs.net: > > <SNIP...> >> I find Windows� users unhappy about a lot of things with it, but inertia >> and other factors keep them from really giving something else a try. >> There are good, free alternatives to check out if anyone's so >> inclined. I'm much happier using the system that I now have than I >> ever was when using Windows�. > > I am happy enough with linux; for me to use the latest Microsoft Windows I > would have to purchase/upgrade new hardware as well as the software. That > said the fact I also rely on WINE is indicative of the the success of Windows > which IMHO can't be denied. When I installed windows 7, I found that I "needed" a better video card. Upgraded the video. Played with the aero interface. Found it a lot of fun for about half an hour before I turned it all off. If you have enough computer to adequately run the latest versions of linux, you should be able to run windows 7 in a mode similar to what you can get with linux. I have two identically configured 2.8GHz HT 2GB ram computers sitting here. Well, all the hardware that lacks hardware or software support in linux is concentrated in one machine. One runs windows 7. The other Ubuntu 9.10 Linux and the programs that run on it are becoming as bloated as windows programs. I find that the linux machine "feels" slower. I think it's mostly the poor way they implement user feedback that something is happening, but it FEELS less interactive. It's still plenty good enough, but arguments that it's FASTER seem inflated. Since virtually every computer ever sold came with a windows license. The "free" argument for linux is not a compelling one.
From: Spamblk on 14 Feb 2010 07:29
Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote in news:Xns9D1D2C3C964AAbearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net: > Wine is a software stealing program. > WINE is Not an Emulator ;-) AFAIK it is not stealing to write routines that re-create the Win32 API. As a matter of fact M$ has had to disclose its APIs under various trust agreements etc. For example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft states this: : In response to court orders, Microsoft has published : interfaces between components of its operating system : software, including components like Internet Explorer, Active : Directory, and Windows Media that sell as part of Windows but : compete with application software. BTW I should add that actually IMHO Windows XP is a good operating system, but there's nothing wrong with a bit of competition. |