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From: Andy Hewitt on 29 Mar 2010 12:37 J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:02:45 -0400, Andy Hewitt wrote > (in article <1jg4hrn.mdjorw1o9zvukN%thewildrover(a)me.com>): [..] > > Inkjet. I have a laser here (an old LJ4100DTN, which belongs to the > > church, but I make use of it too for the small amount I need). Actually, > > I also have an old LJ6 in the loft, but I'm not sure that'll work with > > 10.6. > > It's getting difficult to find an inkjet that _isn't_ a MFD, and almost as > difficult to find a low-end inkjet that is significantly cheaper than a > low-end laser. Epson UK seems to have exactly _one_ inkjet that's not a MFD, > (at �40...) and Brother UK doesn't have any. Cheapest MFD is �70, cheapest > laser is �85. The best I've found so far is the HP OfficeJet 8000. It does Duplex, networking and has cheap inks for it. Some reviews suggest that photo printing may not be up to much. Good price at Misco though, around �70. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Graham J on 29 Mar 2010 12:54 "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote in message news:1jg4m80.16je50o1akqk4lN%thewildrover(a)me.com... > J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:02:45 -0400, Andy Hewitt wrote >> (in article <1jg4hrn.mdjorw1o9zvukN%thewildrover(a)me.com>): > > [..] >> > Inkjet. I have a laser here (an old LJ4100DTN, which belongs to the >> > church, but I make use of it too for the small amount I need). >> > Actually, >> > I also have an old LJ6 in the loft, but I'm not sure that'll work with >> > 10.6. >> >> It's getting difficult to find an inkjet that _isn't_ a MFD, and almost >> as >> difficult to find a low-end inkjet that is significantly cheaper than a >> low-end laser. Epson UK seems to have exactly _one_ inkjet that's not a >> MFD, >> (at �40...) and Brother UK doesn't have any. Cheapest MFD is �70, >> cheapest >> laser is �85. > > The best I've found so far is the HP OfficeJet 8000. It does Duplex, > networking and has cheap inks for it. Some reviews suggest that photo > printing may not be up to much. Good price at Misco though, around �70. I bought one recently - works fine - photo printing on some kodak picture paper I had about looks very good. Compared with a similar priced Brother - the Brother showed clear banding in flat tints - the HP does not. But I bought the much more expensive (about �250) HP C8180 for a client last year. Very nice picture quality on plain paper. But the scan function has failed at 14 months old! This printer has only be used for colour printing and as been *** VERY*** lightly! It shows only 79 pages printed in those 14 months - even then, the yellow ink cartridge required replacement - maybe there was a lot of yellow in those pictures? I complained to HP citing the Sale Of Goods Act 1979 suggesting that such a failure was clear evidence that the device was not "of merchantable quality". Their reply - I could have a refurbished replacement unit at �180. So I'm never going to buy a printer from HP ever again. The warranty on their ProCurve networking products is much better. The devices are no more reliable than anybody elses, but the lifetime warranty had replaced many devices on a next business day basis - no quibble. If only HP gave the same warranty on their printers! -- Graham J
From: Andy Hewitt on 29 Mar 2010 12:57 "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote: > "Andy Hewitt" <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote in message > news:1jg4m80.16je50o1akqk4lN%thewildrover(a)me.com... > > J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:02:45 -0400, Andy Hewitt wrote > >> (in article <1jg4hrn.mdjorw1o9zvukN%thewildrover(a)me.com>): > > > > [..] > >> > Inkjet. I have a laser here (an old LJ4100DTN, which belongs to the > >> > church, but I make use of it too for the small amount I need). > >> > Actually, > >> > I also have an old LJ6 in the loft, but I'm not sure that'll work with > >> > 10.6. > >> > >> It's getting difficult to find an inkjet that _isn't_ a MFD, and almost > >> as > >> difficult to find a low-end inkjet that is significantly cheaper than a > >> low-end laser. Epson UK seems to have exactly _one_ inkjet that's not a > >> MFD, > >> (at �40...) and Brother UK doesn't have any. Cheapest MFD is �70, > >> cheapest > >> laser is �85. > > > > The best I've found so far is the HP OfficeJet 8000. It does Duplex, > > networking and has cheap inks for it. Some reviews suggest that photo > > printing may not be up to much. Good price at Misco though, around �70. > > I bought one recently - works fine - photo printing on some kodak picture > paper I had about looks very good. Compared with a similar priced Brother - > the Brother showed clear banding in flat tints - the HP does not. > > But I bought the much more expensive (about �250) HP C8180 for a client last > year. Very nice picture quality on plain paper. But the scan function has > failed at 14 months old! This printer has only be used for colour printing > and as been *** VERY*** lightly! It shows only 79 pages printed in those > 14 months - even then, the yellow ink cartridge required replacement - maybe > there was a lot of yellow in those pictures? > > I complained to HP citing the Sale Of Goods Act 1979 suggesting that such a > failure was clear evidence that the device was not "of merchantable quality". > Their reply - I could have a refurbished replacement unit at �180. > > So I'm never going to buy a printer from HP ever again. > > The warranty on their ProCurve networking products is much better. The > devices are no more reliable than anybody elses, but the lifetime warranty > had replaced many devices on a next business day basis - no quibble. If > only HP gave the same warranty on their printers! Ok, thanks. Food for thought. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: T i m on 29 Mar 2010 13:22 On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:35:46 +0100, thewildrover(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) wrote: >T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:22:01 +0100, thewildrover(a)me.com (Andy Hewitt) >> wrote: >[..] >> >I doubt that in this case, there's no extra load on it at all. >> >> I think that's impossible, unless the ink is dripped in there from >> above <g>. I take what you are saying though in that the pipes >> feeding the ink to the heads may offer *negligible* load to the >> carriage mech but it can't be none (inc inertial loads)? > >Yeah, if you want to get pedantic about it. I was only (possibly) being pedantic if it never became an issue. My point is there are a load of dynamics going on in a print head / carriage and adding *anything* may have an impact? Like the tiny tweak to the tail of a paper aeroplane that means it flies or crashes and burns. > >> But if you say it's the paper path that's failed and assuming they >> aren't using a common system etc then as you say, it might just be one >> of those things. ;-( > >Indeed. > >> Any chance your ink kit would fit a current model? > >As long as I can find one with the same carts, yes. Not easy to find >though. I think the iP4700 is the next nearest, but they've got bloody >expensive now. Ah. ;-( Cheers, T i m
From: Andy Hewitt on 29 Mar 2010 19:34
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: [..] > >> Any chance your ink kit would fit a current model? > > > >As long as I can find one with the same carts, yes. Not easy to find > >though. I think the iP4700 is the next nearest, but they've got bloody > >expensive now. > > Ah. ;-( Looks like it's not a total disaster. I've found that if I give the drive wheels a little shove, it clears the jam. It appears that this is mainly being caused by the duplex mechanism, and once the jam is cleared, it will print single sided OK, albeit with a few strange noises. The print quality is OK though. At least it gives me some time to decide what to get next. Looking at what Emily might need for future needs, I may reconsider and look at MFPs with network connection. Ideally she could do with an A3, as she's doing a Textiles GCSE, but they're really out of my reach at this time (the only ones on eBay that are cheap enough are quite old, and usually with only a parallel port). Looking at how I use duplex, it's probably just a convenient luxury, I can manage what I need using manual double sided printing. Cheers. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/> |