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From: Joe Forster/STA on 16 May 2010 19:02 On May 16, 7:52 pm, Dragos <mglad...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > hmmm, other countries with higher violent crime rates than the US? > unthinkable.... > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/57125... As a reminder from previous posts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence
From: Brandon Staggs on 16 May 2010 19:21 "Joe Forster/STA" wrote on Sun, 16 May 2010 16:02:40 -0700 (PDT): > On May 16, 7:52 pm, Dragos <mglad...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> hmmm, other countries with higher violent crime rates than the US? >> unthinkable.... >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/57125... > > As a reminder from previous posts: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence The question here is if gun ownership increases violent crime. The facts are that in the US, there are 90 guns for every 100 people, though nobody knows for sure since there is no federal registry of guns (thankfully). The fact is that violent crime in the USA is, today, lower than it was in the early 90s, before the widespread adoption of right-to-carry laws in many of the states. (This does not mean right-to-carry *causes* lower violent crime -- I am not claiming that.) It is also a fact that for the purposes of statistics for anti-gun zealots, "gun violence" includes accidents and also events where someone defends themselves with guns. -- -Brandon http://www.brandonstaggs.com/c64.html
From: Six of Style on 24 May 2010 23:46 I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that despite what certain threads on usenet would suggest, C4 is a family friendly event. There has never been (and AFAIC will never be) any sort of violence or harassment of attendees at C4. In the extremely unlikely event that someone were to cause problems, they would be removed by our very capable security staff. In the even more extremely unlikely event that they were to return or continue to disrupt or harass the attendees, the police would immediately be contacted. In case anyone has been misled by the tone of discussion in this thread, you should know that the most unruly thing that has happened at a C4 so far has been some attendees drinking too much in the hotel bar, probably urinating on themselves, and passing out face-down in the lavatory of their hotel rooms. I am quite certain that I can speak for the officers of CCCC when I say that there will be zero-tolerance for harassment, intimidation, or fighting at C4. If anyone has a problem with this policy, they are welcome to discuss it with me in person at the event. If anyone feels that they will be unable to control their behavior, they should not attend. Finally, FWIW, I have found in the past that people who actually intend to follow through with threats do not deliver them via anonymous remailers. 6
From: EnergyAdvisor on 29 May 2010 23:28 On May 24, 11:46 pm, Six of Style <s...(a)NOstyle64.SPAMorg> wrote: > I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that despite what > certain threads on usenet would suggest, C4 is a family friendly event. > There has never been (and AFAIC will never be) any sort of violence or > harassment of attendees at C4. > > In the extremely unlikely event that someone were to cause problems, they > would be removed by our very capable security staff. In the even more > extremely unlikely event that they were to return or continue to disrupt or > harass the attendees, the police would immediately be contacted. > > In case anyone has been misled by the tone of discussion in this thread, > you should know that the most unruly thing that has happened at a C4 so far > has been some attendees drinking too much in the hotel bar, probably > urinating on themselves, and passing out face-down in the lavatory of their > hotel rooms. > > I am quite certain that I can speak for the officers of CCCC when I say > that there will be zero-tolerance for harassment, intimidation, or fighting > at C4. If anyone has a problem with this policy, they are welcome to > discuss it with me in person at the event. If anyone feels that they will > be unable to control their behavior, they should not attend. > > Finally, FWIW, I have found in the past that people who actually intend to > follow through with threats do not deliver them via anonymous remailers. > > 6 Gladson's a drama queen; I wouldn't be surprised if he faked the spoof e-mail so he could draw attention to himself and go on his tiresome little xenophobic diatribe yet again in a retro computing forum. I find it disappointing that people are still feeding this troll.
From: Dragos on 30 May 2010 19:14
oh noes, Pauline feels the need to chime in. His opinion is valued. hahahahahahahahahahaha. |