From: nuny on
On Nov 6, 2:39 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...(a)yandex.ua> wrote:

> Inertial wrote:
> > > According to Russian online “opinion pole” at November 6, 2009, 52% of
> > > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
> > So .. Russians are misinformed idiots.
>
> Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who
> are the misinformed idiot.

Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public
opinion?


Mark L. Fergerson
From: Sam Wormley on
Jim Black wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:40:03 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>> o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
>> accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
>> short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
>
> There have been no black holes created in accelerators. What you are
> probably thinking of is the use of the AdS/CFT duality to make calculations
> about quark-gluon plasmas using black hole physics.
>

I'll see if I can find the citation of the article I read a
few years ago.
From: john on
On Nov 7, 9:54 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
> Jim Black wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:40:03 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
> >> o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle
> >> accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly
> >> short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s)
>
> > There have been no black holes created in accelerators. What you are
> > probably thinking of is the use of the AdS/CFT duality to make calculations
> > about quark-gluon plasmas using black hole physics.
>
> I'll see if I can find the citation of the article I read a
> few years ago.


How much energy does it take to create a proton?
Because that's a black hole on the atomic scale,
which is what you are talking. Because you sure aren't ever going
to create a galactic nucleus.

And said proton isn't going to get any
larger (why aren't AGNs any smaller 13 billion
years ago?)

There are so many obvious inconsistencies in the Big
Bang theory all based on Doppler Shift
NOT being driven by Tired Light.

So in order to avoid Tired Light, we have a
Universe accelerating away from us (and only
us), Dark Matter, Dark Energy, etc etc

Seems like jumping out of the frying pan
into the fire.

john
From: Magnetic on
> > > > According to Russian online “opinion pole” at November 6, 2009, 52% of
> > > > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.

> > > So .. Russians are misinformed idiots.

> > Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who
> > are the misinformed idiot.
>
> Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public
> opinion?

Physicists in their majority are confident that heavy particles,
created at LHC will decay.
That is a crude error.

LHC can create a particle with the mass by 10 000 times greater than
the mass of proton.

To imagine this, compare the masses of a human and of a railway train.

Imagine the situation if biologists would make a creature with the
mass of railway train, but having the human size. What will happen to
you if this creature would seat at the roof of your house, exactly
over you? Any roof will be broken and you would be smashed into a thin
film and pushed deep into the ground.

Now imagine a proton, as soup babble, and a liquid drop of the same
size.
What will happen to protons, if the babble has a field, attracting
protons?
Protons would be ruined and their remnants would condense onto the
drop.

Particle physicists have no such imagination. Those idiots think that
proton consists from three point-like quarks. In fact proton is
composed from some continuous substance, rotating with relativistic
velocity. This rotating substance creates three mixed electro-magneto-
weak poles: u, u, d. At strong magnetic field this three-pole
construction can be ruined, and the two-pole construction can be
created. This process is accompanied by ejection of positron.

There are two independent math proves that this reconstruction can be
performed at energies about 0,25 TeV per colliding particle, if the
magnetic moment of resulting two-pole particle is the same as the
magnetic moment of proton. If its value is different, then the needed
energy would also be different.

Official science is corrupted and rotten organism. It will never
approve the idea, created at the camp of independent researchers.
Official science would better explode the Earth, than say that
magnetic holes are possible and that LHC is deadly dangerous for our
civilization. That is why the official science is criminal now. So, do
not think that CERN would stop the LHC. CERN will kill us all with
probability about 50%.
From: jmfbahciv on
nuny(a)bid.nes wrote:
> On Nov 6, 2:39 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...(a)yandex.ua> wrote:
>
>> Inertial wrote:
>>>> According to Russian online �opinion pole� at November 6, 2009, 52% of
>>>> respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat.
>>> So .. Russians are misinformed idiots.
>> Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who
>> are the misinformed idiot.
>
> Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public
> opinion?
>
>
That appears to be how science is to be done with politicians choosing
which question to ask.

/BAH