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From: nuny on 7 Nov 2009 19:25 On Nov 6, 2:39 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...(a)yandex.ua> wrote: > Inertial wrote: > > > According to Russian online opinion pole at November 6, 2009, 52% of > > > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat. > > So .. Russians are misinformed idiots. > > Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who > are the misinformed idiot. Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public opinion? Mark L. Fergerson
From: Sam Wormley on 7 Nov 2009 22:54 Jim Black wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:40:03 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle >> accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly >> short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s) > > There have been no black holes created in accelerators. What you are > probably thinking of is the use of the AdS/CFT duality to make calculations > about quark-gluon plasmas using black hole physics. > I'll see if I can find the citation of the article I read a few years ago.
From: john on 7 Nov 2009 23:11 On Nov 7, 9:54 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > Jim Black wrote: > > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:40:03 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote: > > >> o There is evidence that a black hole has been created in particle > >> accelerators in the past. Low mass black holes have an exceedingly > >> short lifetime. t = m^3/(1.194 x 10^16 kg^3/s) > > > There have been no black holes created in accelerators. What you are > > probably thinking of is the use of the AdS/CFT duality to make calculations > > about quark-gluon plasmas using black hole physics. > > I'll see if I can find the citation of the article I read a > few years ago. How much energy does it take to create a proton? Because that's a black hole on the atomic scale, which is what you are talking. Because you sure aren't ever going to create a galactic nucleus. And said proton isn't going to get any larger (why aren't AGNs any smaller 13 billion years ago?) There are so many obvious inconsistencies in the Big Bang theory all based on Doppler Shift NOT being driven by Tired Light. So in order to avoid Tired Light, we have a Universe accelerating away from us (and only us), Dark Matter, Dark Energy, etc etc Seems like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. john
From: Magnetic on 8 Nov 2009 03:52 > > > > According to Russian online opinion pole at November 6, 2009, 52% of > > > > respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat. > > > So .. Russians are misinformed idiots. > > Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who > > are the misinformed idiot. > > Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public > opinion? Physicists in their majority are confident that heavy particles, created at LHC will decay. That is a crude error. LHC can create a particle with the mass by 10 000 times greater than the mass of proton. To imagine this, compare the masses of a human and of a railway train. Imagine the situation if biologists would make a creature with the mass of railway train, but having the human size. What will happen to you if this creature would seat at the roof of your house, exactly over you? Any roof will be broken and you would be smashed into a thin film and pushed deep into the ground. Now imagine a proton, as soup babble, and a liquid drop of the same size. What will happen to protons, if the babble has a field, attracting protons? Protons would be ruined and their remnants would condense onto the drop. Particle physicists have no such imagination. Those idiots think that proton consists from three point-like quarks. In fact proton is composed from some continuous substance, rotating with relativistic velocity. This rotating substance creates three mixed electro-magneto- weak poles: u, u, d. At strong magnetic field this three-pole construction can be ruined, and the two-pole construction can be created. This process is accompanied by ejection of positron. There are two independent math proves that this reconstruction can be performed at energies about 0,25 TeV per colliding particle, if the magnetic moment of resulting two-pole particle is the same as the magnetic moment of proton. If its value is different, then the needed energy would also be different. Official science is corrupted and rotten organism. It will never approve the idea, created at the camp of independent researchers. Official science would better explode the Earth, than say that magnetic holes are possible and that LHC is deadly dangerous for our civilization. That is why the official science is criminal now. So, do not think that CERN would stop the LHC. CERN will kill us all with probability about 50%.
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Nov 2009 09:00
nuny(a)bid.nes wrote: > On Nov 6, 2:39 am, Magnetic <magnetic.t...(a)yandex.ua> wrote: > >> Inertial wrote: >>>> According to Russian online �opinion pole� at November 6, 2009, 52% of >>>> respondents had said that LHC is the dearth threat. >>> So .. Russians are misinformed idiots. >> Make an "opinion pole" in your country and you will see that you, who >> are the misinformed idiot. > > Are you seriously suggesting that science should be driven by public > opinion? > > That appears to be how science is to be done with politicians choosing which question to ask. /BAH |