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From: Media Watcher on 19 Nov 2009 17:31 On Nov 19, 9:23 pm, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 19, 5:45 am, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote: > > > On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote: > > > > There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC > > > collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going > > > to create strangelets so would the other. > > > > Learn something, ANYTHING. > > > Energy is indeed energy, but the way the energy handled is very much > > different. > > No, it is not. > > > For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no > > harm. > > The usual contracted form of "alternating current" requires no > slash. It's just AC. When you include the slash, it's generally > understood to mean "Air Conditioning". Thanks for letting me know. But even so, you still know much less words in Dutch as I know in English. > > Grounding a wire carrying power certainly will cause harm to > whatever is generating the power (also possibly melting the wires), > unless the circuit is properly fused. > > > That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's > > resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body. > > Nonsense. I've taken many 120 volt and 220 volt shocks over the > course of my life. Jolting, but not fatal. > You should not use examples like that with someone who has not only > book learning of, but also "hands-on" experience with, electricity. Do you really? So have I. Well, if it's a bad example, let's try 380 Volts. BTW, it's not so much the voltage that kills, but rather the power (symbol I and measured in Amperes) that kills. So would you rather be submitted to 100A for a period of 1 second or 1A for a period of 100 seconds? Only an "know-it-all" idiot will chose the first option because" in his wisdom" he thinks it makes no difference. But I say: Same energy, but in the first case you most probably die instantly and in the other case you most probably stay alive. The focusing/concentration of energy/matter in both space and time gives quite a different result. So, same energy but with quite a different result... > > You are still an idiot, but now you're a deliberately obtuse idiot. What are your medical qualifications to call someone an idiot? > > The energy in your example either does, or does not, pass through my > body. I'd expect a difference in effects. > > In the referenced example- "cosmic rays and the LHC collisions", it > goes into particle collisions in both cases. Hence in both cases the > same effect should happen if "Magnetic" is right, but it happens in > neither case, so he is not right. Did I mention 'magnetic' somewhere? > > Learn some basic logic if science is too hard for you. > > Whatever you do, stop believing "Magnetic". > > Mark L. Fergerson Conclusion: Lots of rude idiot calling but no real answers.
From: Inertial on 19 Nov 2009 17:57 "Media Watcher" <bog2(a)telenet.be> wrote in message news:bd554653-1a7c-4d73-bc5e-93484f4205d8(a)f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 19, 9:23 pm, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Nov 19, 5:45 am, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote: >> >> > On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote: >> >> > > There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC >> > > collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going >> > > to create strangelets so would the other. >> >> > > Learn something, ANYTHING. >> >> > Energy is indeed energy, but the way the energy handled is very much >> > different. >> >> No, it is not. >> >> > For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no >> > harm. >> >> The usual contracted form of "alternating current" requires no >> slash. It's just AC. When you include the slash, it's generally >> understood to mean "Air Conditioning". > > Thanks for letting me know. > But even so, you still know much less words in Dutch as I know in > English. > >> >> Grounding a wire carrying power certainly will cause harm to >> whatever is generating the power (also possibly melting the wires), >> unless the circuit is properly fused. >> >> > That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's >> > resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body. >> >> Nonsense. I've taken many 120 volt and 220 volt shocks over the >> course of my life. Jolting, but not fatal. > >> You should not use examples like that with someone who has not only >> book learning of, but also "hands-on" experience with, electricity. > > Do you really? So have I. > Well, if it's a bad example, let's try 380 Volts. > BTW, it's not so much the voltage that kills, but rather the power > (symbol I and measured in Amperes) that kills. > So would you rather be submitted to 100A for a period of 1 second or > 1A for a period of 100 seconds? > Only an "know-it-all" idiot will chose the first option because" in > his wisdom" he thinks it makes no difference. > But I say: Same energy, but in the first case you most probably die > instantly and in the other case you most probably stay alive. > The focusing/concentration of energy/matter in both space and time > gives quite a different result. > So, same energy but with quite a different result... > >> >> You are still an idiot, but now you're a deliberately obtuse idiot. > > What are your medical qualifications to call someone an idiot? >> >> The energy in your example either does, or does not, pass through my >> body. I'd expect a difference in effects. >> >> In the referenced example- "cosmic rays and the LHC collisions", it >> goes into particle collisions in both cases. Hence in both cases the >> same effect should happen if "Magnetic" is right, but it happens in >> neither case, so he is not right. > > Did I mention 'magnetic' somewhere? >> >> Learn some basic logic if science is too hard for you. >> >> Whatever you do, stop believing "Magnetic". >> >> Mark L. Fergerson > > Conclusion: Lots of rude idiot calling but no real answers. Did you ask any real questions?
From: BURT on 19 Nov 2009 18:36 On Nov 19, 2:57 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "Media Watcher" <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote in message > > news:bd554653-1a7c-4d73-bc5e-93484f4205d8(a)f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Nov 19, 9:23 pm, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 19, 5:45 am, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote: > > >> > On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote: > > >> > > There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC > >> > > collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going > >> > > to create strangelets so would the other. > > >> > > Learn something, ANYTHING. > > >> > Energy is indeed energy, but the way the energy handled is very much > >> > different. > > >> No, it is not. > > >> > For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no > >> > harm. > > >> The usual contracted form of "alternating current" requires no > >> slash. It's just AC. When you include the slash, it's generally > >> understood to mean "Air Conditioning". > > > Thanks for letting me know. > > But even so, you still know much less words in Dutch as I know in > > English. > > >> Grounding a wire carrying power certainly will cause harm to > >> whatever is generating the power (also possibly melting the wires), > >> unless the circuit is properly fused. > > >> > That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's > >> > resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body. > > >> Nonsense. I've taken many 120 volt and 220 volt shocks over the > >> course of my life. Jolting, but not fatal. > > >> You should not use examples like that with someone who has not only > >> book learning of, but also "hands-on" experience with, electricity. > > > Do you really? So have I. > > Well, if it's a bad example, let's try 380 Volts. > > BTW, it's not so much the voltage that kills, but rather the power > > (symbol I and measured in Amperes) that kills. > > So would you rather be submitted to 100A for a period of 1 second or > > 1A for a period of 100 seconds? > > Only an "know-it-all" idiot will chose the first option because" in > > his wisdom" he thinks it makes no difference. > > But I say: Same energy, but in the first case you most probably die > > instantly and in the other case you most probably stay alive. > > The focusing/concentration of energy/matter in both space and time > > gives quite a different result. > > So, same energy but with quite a different result... > > >> You are still an idiot, but now you're a deliberately obtuse idiot.. > > > What are your medical qualifications to call someone an idiot? > > >> The energy in your example either does, or does not, pass through my > >> body. I'd expect a difference in effects. > > >> In the referenced example- "cosmic rays and the LHC collisions", it > >> goes into particle collisions in both cases. Hence in both cases the > >> same effect should happen if "Magnetic" is right, but it happens in > >> neither case, so he is not right. > > > Did I mention 'magnetic' somewhere? > > >> Learn some basic logic if science is too hard for you. > > >> Whatever you do, stop believing "Magnetic". > > >> Mark L. Fergerson > > > Conclusion: Lots of rude idiot calling but no real answers. > > Did you ask any real questions?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they don't exist and nothing is going to happen. Mitch Raemsch
From: Aleph on 19 Nov 2009 18:45 In article <2ec98db9-5b22-4568-a8bb-0a00e2c5ebe6 @x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:36:43 -0800 (PST), BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> imparted these words of wisdom: > If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they > don't exist and nothing is going to happen. > How can you be so wrong with so few words? -- Aleph This article was posted to USENET, please reply in that manner. Emails to this account will be ignored.
From: BURT on 19 Nov 2009 18:58
On Nov 19, 3:45 pm, Aleph <Usenet....(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > In article <2ec98db9-5b22-4568-a8bb-0a00e2c5ebe6 > @x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 > 15:36:43 -0800 (PST), BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> imparted these words > of wisdom: > > > If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they > > don't exist and nothing is going to happen. > > How can you be so wrong with so few words? As soon as they create one it will All be over. |