From: Media Watcher on
On Nov 19, 9:23 pm, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 19, 5:45 am, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote:
>
> > >   There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC
> > > collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going
> > > to create strangelets so would the other.
>
> > >   Learn something, ANYTHING.
>
> > Energy is indeed energy, but the way the energy handled is very much
> > different.
>
>   No, it is not.
>
> > For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no
> > harm.
>
>   The usual contracted form of "alternating current" requires no
> slash. It's just AC. When you include the slash, it's generally
> understood to mean "Air Conditioning".

Thanks for letting me know.
But even so, you still know much less words in Dutch as I know in
English.

>
>   Grounding a wire carrying power certainly will cause harm to
> whatever is generating the power (also possibly melting the wires),
> unless the circuit is properly fused.
>
> > That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's
> > resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body.
>
>   Nonsense. I've taken many 120 volt and 220 volt shocks over the
> course of my life. Jolting, but not fatal.

>   You should not use examples like that with someone who has not only
> book learning of, but also "hands-on" experience with, electricity.

Do you really? So have I.
Well, if it's a bad example, let's try 380 Volts.
BTW, it's not so much the voltage that kills, but rather the power
(symbol I and measured in Amperes) that kills.
So would you rather be submitted to 100A for a period of 1 second or
1A for a period of 100 seconds?
Only an "know-it-all" idiot will chose the first option because" in
his wisdom" he thinks it makes no difference.
But I say: Same energy, but in the first case you most probably die
instantly and in the other case you most probably stay alive.
The focusing/concentration of energy/matter in both space and time
gives quite a different result.
So, same energy but with quite a different result...

>
>   You are still an idiot, but now you're a deliberately obtuse idiot.

What are your medical qualifications to call someone an idiot?
>
>   The energy in your example either does, or does not, pass through my
> body. I'd expect a difference in effects.
>
>   In the referenced example- "cosmic rays and the LHC collisions", it
> goes into particle collisions in both cases. Hence in both cases the
> same effect should happen if "Magnetic" is right, but it happens in
> neither case, so he is not right.

Did I mention 'magnetic' somewhere?
>
>   Learn some basic logic if science is too hard for you.
>
>   Whatever you do, stop believing "Magnetic".
>
>   Mark L. Fergerson

Conclusion: Lots of rude idiot calling but no real answers.


From: Inertial on
"Media Watcher" <bog2(a)telenet.be> wrote in message
news:bd554653-1a7c-4d73-bc5e-93484f4205d8(a)f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 19, 9:23 pm, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 19, 5:45 am, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote:
>>
>> > > There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC
>> > > collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going
>> > > to create strangelets so would the other.
>>
>> > > Learn something, ANYTHING.
>>
>> > Energy is indeed energy, but the way the energy handled is very much
>> > different.
>>
>> No, it is not.
>>
>> > For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no
>> > harm.
>>
>> The usual contracted form of "alternating current" requires no
>> slash. It's just AC. When you include the slash, it's generally
>> understood to mean "Air Conditioning".
>
> Thanks for letting me know.
> But even so, you still know much less words in Dutch as I know in
> English.
>
>>
>> Grounding a wire carrying power certainly will cause harm to
>> whatever is generating the power (also possibly melting the wires),
>> unless the circuit is properly fused.
>>
>> > That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's
>> > resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body.
>>
>> Nonsense. I've taken many 120 volt and 220 volt shocks over the
>> course of my life. Jolting, but not fatal.
>
>> You should not use examples like that with someone who has not only
>> book learning of, but also "hands-on" experience with, electricity.
>
> Do you really? So have I.
> Well, if it's a bad example, let's try 380 Volts.
> BTW, it's not so much the voltage that kills, but rather the power
> (symbol I and measured in Amperes) that kills.
> So would you rather be submitted to 100A for a period of 1 second or
> 1A for a period of 100 seconds?
> Only an "know-it-all" idiot will chose the first option because" in
> his wisdom" he thinks it makes no difference.
> But I say: Same energy, but in the first case you most probably die
> instantly and in the other case you most probably stay alive.
> The focusing/concentration of energy/matter in both space and time
> gives quite a different result.
> So, same energy but with quite a different result...
>
>>
>> You are still an idiot, but now you're a deliberately obtuse idiot.
>
> What are your medical qualifications to call someone an idiot?
>>
>> The energy in your example either does, or does not, pass through my
>> body. I'd expect a difference in effects.
>>
>> In the referenced example- "cosmic rays and the LHC collisions", it
>> goes into particle collisions in both cases. Hence in both cases the
>> same effect should happen if "Magnetic" is right, but it happens in
>> neither case, so he is not right.
>
> Did I mention 'magnetic' somewhere?
>>
>> Learn some basic logic if science is too hard for you.
>>
>> Whatever you do, stop believing "Magnetic".
>>
>> Mark L. Fergerson
>
> Conclusion: Lots of rude idiot calling but no real answers.

Did you ask any real questions?


From: BURT on
On Nov 19, 2:57 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "Media Watcher" <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote in message
>
> news:bd554653-1a7c-4d73-bc5e-93484f4205d8(a)f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 19, 9:23 pm, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 19, 5:45 am, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote:
>
> >> > On Nov 19, 12:07 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Nov 17, 2:11 pm, Media Watcher <b...(a)telenet.be> wrote:
>
> >> > >   There is no relevant difference between "cosmic rays and the LHC
> >> > > collisions" in this context. Energy is energy, if the one were going
> >> > > to create strangelets so would the other.
>
> >> > >   Learn something, ANYTHING.
>
> >> > Energy is indeed energy, but the way the energy handled is very much
> >> > different.
>
> >>   No, it is not.
>
> >> > For example 120/220 Volt A/C directly earthed with a wire causes no
> >> > harm.
>
> >>   The usual contracted form of "alternating current" requires no
> >> slash. It's just AC. When you include the slash, it's generally
> >> understood to mean "Air Conditioning".
>
> > Thanks for letting me know.
> > But even so, you still know much less words in Dutch as I know in
> > English.
>
> >>   Grounding a wire carrying power certainly will cause harm to
> >> whatever is generating the power (also possibly melting the wires),
> >> unless the circuit is properly fused.
>
> >> > That same energy that flows through your body and meets you body's
> >> > resistance, in order to reach earth will destroy your body.
>
> >>   Nonsense. I've taken many 120 volt and 220 volt shocks over the
> >> course of my life. Jolting, but not fatal.
>
> >>   You should not use examples like that with someone who has not only
> >> book learning of, but also "hands-on" experience with, electricity.
>
> > Do you really? So have I.
> > Well, if it's a bad example, let's try 380 Volts.
> > BTW, it's not so much the voltage that kills, but rather the power
> > (symbol I and measured in Amperes) that kills.
> > So would you rather be submitted to 100A for a period of 1 second or
> > 1A  for a period of 100 seconds?
> > Only an "know-it-all" idiot will chose the first option because" in
> > his wisdom" he thinks it makes no difference.
> > But I say: Same energy, but in the first case you most probably die
> > instantly and in the other case you most probably stay alive.
> > The focusing/concentration of energy/matter in both space and time
> > gives quite a different result.
> > So, same energy but with quite a different result...
>
> >>   You are still an idiot, but now you're a deliberately obtuse idiot..
>
> > What are your medical qualifications to call someone an idiot?
>
> >>   The energy in your example either does, or does not, pass through my
> >> body. I'd expect a difference in effects.
>
> >>   In the referenced example- "cosmic rays and the LHC collisions", it
> >> goes into particle collisions in both cases. Hence in both cases the
> >> same effect should happen if "Magnetic" is right, but it happens in
> >> neither case, so he is not right.
>
> > Did I mention 'magnetic' somewhere?
>
> >>   Learn some basic logic if science is too hard for you.
>
> >>   Whatever you do, stop believing "Magnetic".
>
> >>   Mark L. Fergerson
>
> > Conclusion: Lots of rude idiot calling but no real answers.
>
> Did you ask any real questions?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they
don't exist and nothing is going to happen.

Mitch Raemsch
From: Aleph on
In article <2ec98db9-5b22-4568-a8bb-0a00e2c5ebe6
@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009
15:36:43 -0800 (PST), BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> imparted these words
of wisdom:

> If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they
> don't exist and nothing is going to happen.
>

How can you be so wrong with so few words?

--
Aleph

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From: BURT on
On Nov 19, 3:45 pm, Aleph <Usenet....(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> In article <2ec98db9-5b22-4568-a8bb-0a00e2c5ebe6
> @x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, sent to sci.physics on Thu, 19 Nov 2009
> 15:36:43 -0800 (PST), BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> imparted these words
> of wisdom:
>
> > If black holes exist then there is certain end to mankind. But they
> > don't exist and nothing is going to happen.
>
> How can you be so wrong with so few words?

As soon as they create one it will All be over.