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From: Urion on 16 Mar 2010 21:04 No I don't think we can be truly happy without some sort of afterlife. No God also means no afterlife. This means that if you fail in this life, that's it. It's all over for you. All the people who have died from starvation and diseases in Africa and other impoverished regions of the world no longer have a chance to experience life. According to atheism, if you die there are no more chances for you to make it better. There are at least a 1,000 ways to die so let's say you get very ill and weak and then you die of a disease of some sort at a very young age, according to atheists you don't have another chance to live again and experience the world to the fullest. And that is the moral argument against atheist beliefs. Also many atheists assume that because there may not be a God that there is no reason for us to act morally toward one another and to love one another. Instead they assume that if there is no God and no afterlife that everyone must care and look out only for himself. This is not only a naturalistic fallacy but also a moral fallacy as well.
From: Jimbo on 16 Mar 2010 21:10 On Mar 16, 9:04 pm, Urion <blackman_...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > No I don't think we can be truly happy without some sort of afterlife. > No God also means no afterlife. I can, so watch how you're throwing the "we" aroung.
From: Rushtown on 16 Mar 2010 21:15 On Mar 16, 6:04�pm, Urion <blackman_...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > No I don't think we can be truly happy without some sort of afterlife. > No God also means no afterlife. This means that if you fail in this > life, that's it. It's all over for you. All the people who have died > from starvation and diseases in Africa and other impoverished regions > of the world no longer have a chance to experience life. > > According to atheism, if you die there are no more chances for you to > make it better. There are at least a 1,000 ways to die so let's say > you get very ill and weak and then you die of a disease of some sort > at a very young age, according to atheists you don't have another > chance to live again and experience the world to the fullest. And that > is the moral argument against atheist beliefs. > > Also many atheists assume that because there may not be a God that > there is no reason for us to act morally toward one another and to > love one another. Instead they assume that if there is no God and no > afterlife that everyone must care and look out only for himself. This > is not only a naturalistic fallacy but also a moral fallacy as well. What would god and the afterlife be like? One million years of sittling on a cloud playing a harp? It would get so boring as to be torture. Five virgins a day for eternity. Even that could get old. The only afterlife worth having is the one that modern physics promises----living as your own Doppelganger an infinity of times on an infinite number of earths scattered across and infinite cosmos.
From: BURT on 16 Mar 2010 23:45 On Mar 16, 6:15 pm, Rushtown <Rusht...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Mar 16, 6:04 pm, Urion <blackman_...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > No I don't think we can be truly happy without some sort of afterlife. > > No God also means no afterlife. This means that if you fail in this > > life, that's it. It's all over for you. All the people who have died > > from starvation and diseases in Africa and other impoverished regions > > of the world no longer have a chance to experience life. > > > According to atheism, if you die there are no more chances for you to > > make it better. There are at least a 1,000 ways to die so let's say > > you get very ill and weak and then you die of a disease of some sort > > at a very young age, according to atheists you don't have another > > chance to live again and experience the world to the fullest. And that > > is the moral argument against atheist beliefs. > > > Also many atheists assume that because there may not be a God that > > there is no reason for us to act morally toward one another and to > > love one another. Instead they assume that if there is no God and no > > afterlife that everyone must care and look out only for himself. This > > is not only a naturalistic fallacy but also a moral fallacy as well. > > What would god and the afterlife be like? One million years of > sittling on a cloud > playing a harp? It would get so boring as to be torture. Five > virgins a day for eternity. Even that could get old. > > The only afterlife worth having is the one that modern physics > promises----living as your own Doppelganger an infinity of times on an > infinite number of earths scattered across and infinite cosmos.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Only the atheists take it as their virtue that they can die forever and have no qualm about it. You atheists think that you are better because you think you do not fear eternal death. God takes you through it. Mitch Raemsch
From: Robibnikoff on 17 Mar 2010 04:31
"Urion" <blackman_two(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:a5eb9070-1d99-410c-bbb4-177bba5f54b4(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > No I don't think we can be truly happy without some sort of afterlife. Wrong. -- Robyn BAAWA Knight #1557 |