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From: David Kennedy on 28 Mar 2010 03:17
Vivienne Dunstan wrote:
> Roger Merriman<NEWS(a)sarlet.com> wrote:
>
>> people are much more tolerant of obvous known stuff
>
> I noticed that when I started to use at least 1 stick permanently when
> walking. I'd fall over a bit less as a result, but people were also more
> sympathetic when I did, and gave me more space.

Probably gave you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't just pissed...

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From: Ben Shimmin on 28 Mar 2010 06:23
Roger Merriman <NEWS(a)sarlet.com>:
> James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote:

[...]

>> I'm not sure really, I usually hold on to her arm if that's any kind of
>> indication.
>
> not at all, people are looking for it, so your just holding on to your
> wifes hand, hence the odd looks.
>
> people need really big clues as they are not looking out for it, hence
> you need shades and a white stick! before people will notice.

Basically you need to model yourself on Stevie Wonder and then you should
be fine.

b.

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From: Peter Ceresole on 28 Mar 2010 07:32
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> I always used to open doors for ladies and often still do but started
> to think better of doing so when I came up against the "I can do it
> myself thanks" brigade

My dad brought me up to feel ill if I was sitting while a lady was
standing... And I still open the door for them- and, as you say, for men
who look as though they need help.

But I never get any snarly responses. Maybe it's my winning smile?
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From: Peter Ceresole on 28 Mar 2010 07:32
Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote:

> Basically you need to model yourself on Stevie Wonder and then you should
> be fine.

Really?

Isn't making millions of dollars a bit naff? Although some of the songs
were okay.
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Peter
From: T i m on 28 Mar 2010 06:53
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:32:03 +0000, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter
Ceresole) wrote:

>T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> I always used to open doors for ladies and often still do but started
>> to think better of doing so when I came up against the "I can do it
>> myself thanks" brigade
>
>My dad brought me up to feel ill if I was sitting while a lady was
>standing...

I think I got de-sensitised to those 'old fashioned ways' when I
started commuting on the train / tube. Once it stops being the norm to
give up your seat for a lady even they seem reluctant to accept one
when you offer? Being realistic there is generally no reason why they
can't equally stand (at 80 year old my Mum can probably out-stand most
youth these days) but it's not down to ability is it? If people want
equality then they should they also be expected to fend for
themselves, treated as equals (I'm just asking). [1]

>And I still open the door for them- and, as you say, for men
>who look as though they need help.

Good. Out of interest, do you then 'rate' someone based on if they
actually bother to thank you for your action? Even if it's a flash of
'thanking' eye contact or a quick nod or smile? Same with letting cars
though (when the obstruction is on their side), p's me off when they
don't. It's not so much I want thanking for my action (although nice I
don't do it for the thanks) but the acknowledgement *of* the action?
>
>But I never get any snarly responses. Maybe it's my winning smile?

Or the knife.

Cheers, T i m


[1] When the Mrs was carrying our daughter she basically carried on
doing all the same things she would normally do. She was 'pregnant not
disabled sorta thing. This included buzzing about on our scooter (to
'Granny's dismay'), ripping plaster off the walls, building the kit
car etc.
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