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From: measekite on 23 Dec 2008 16:15 On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:19:09 +0000, Taliesyn wrote: > measekite <inkystinky(a)oem.com> wrote in > news:Cl%3l.9637$D32.8849(a)flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com: > >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:14:45 -0800, IntergalacticExpandingPanda wrote: >> >>> On Dec 22, 12:48 pm, measekite <inkysti...(a)oem.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The above top posted statement is incorrect. The mfgs are not >>>> forcing anybody to use the correct ink. There are many jerks that >>>> do not follow the advice of the mfg and get lousy results but either >>>> they lie about what they get or they are unknowingly willing to >>>> accept poorer results and enjoy complaining and having issues with >>>> their printers. >>>> >>>> The majority of printer users do in fact use OEM productgs. >>>> >>> >>> If the majority of printer users use OEM, then why the switch to the >>> chips? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the majority use OEM, not >>> because it's an informed choice but because they don't know there are >>> options. >> >> You are nuts. They do know about options. >> >> Option 1: You have a higher risk of clogging your printer. > > One has a much higher risk of getting misinformation like the above from > trolls. In 13 years I never had any more clogging with aftermarket than > with OEM ink. In fact Canon has 2 printhead cleaning cycles in their > printers because they know Canon ink, like any ink, can clog if printer > isn't used for an extended period of time. > >> Option 2: You get lower quality images. > > OEM costs about 10 times more (depending on source). However, the > quality difference is not 10 times better when using OEM cartridges. > It's not even 10% better. Unless one needs archival quality ink, you're > simply wasting your money. Oh, that's right, you print your own using > OEM ink. > >> Option 3: You images have a greater risk of fading. > > Both OEM and non OEM will fade to nothing if left unprotected to the > elements of the room. That's a known fact. My aftermartket made prints > protected by dark or under glass have no noticeable fading over the many > years. > >> Option 4: It is a big fat mess. > > Getting a drop of ink on your finger is not a "mess". I don't even use > gloves. A beginner might, naturally, get more ink on his/her hands. But > he/she will learn and the next time they may not even use gloves. Common > sense, idiot. > >> Option 5: You have to support a fly by nite > > Or you can choose OEM who are ALWAYS to to rip you off with overpriced > ink cartridges that show empty but are actually half full (personal > experience). > >> >> Option 6: You do not know what you are buying because the fly by nite >> will not tell you. > > I'm buying ink made for my printer line. Do you ask Kraft where they > bought their cheese from? Or Ford, where they got their mufflers from? > Or your Mom, where you came from???? I'd seriously ask that last one... > >> >> Just cause you head comes to a point >> Don;t think you are sharp > > Oh gawd, a recycled joke from the Fifties. Too lame!.... > > -Taliesyn You do not want to believe aftermarket trolls.
From: measekite on 23 Dec 2008 16:19 On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:09:56 +0000, Taliesyn wrote: > measekite <inkystinky(a)oem.com> wrote in news:qh%3l.9636$D32.5318 > @flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com: > >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:50:26 +0000, Taliesyn wrote: >> >>> measekite <inkystinky(a)oem.com> wrote in >>> news:a2T3l.9588$D32.3598(a)flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com: >>> >>>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:24:25 -0800, Arthur Entlich wrote: >>>> >>>>> Indeed, I feel similarly with any chipped cartridge... Of course, >>>>> that would defeat the whole reason they put the chip there to begin >>>>> with (in spite of what they may claim). >>>>> >>>>> With Epsons, which I have a lot more experience with, I have seen >>>>> many chip and chip firmware related problems, as well as hardware >>>>> related problems related to the chips. I find it ironic that >>>>> purchasers end up paying extra for the printer, and the ink >>>>> cartridges, and have additional issues with their printers so that >>>>> they can be forced to buy the manufacturer's ink. "What a 'country'!" >>>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Art >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> The above top posted statement is incorrect. The mfgs are not forcing >>>> anybody to use the correct ink. >>> >>> That's why they placed the chips on the cartridges, stupid. People HAVE >>> to buy BRAND NEW MANUFACTURER'S CARTRIDGES or lose ink metering. That is >>> "force" by any definition of the word! >>> >> >> >> Chips were placed on the carts to increase functionality. > > Explain this "functionality", and without laughing... heheheeheh, see, I > can't do it. Because the old cartridges were actually more functional and > foolproof than the "functional" chipped ones..... because, the chipped ones > MAL-function! > > -Taliesyn Sound to me like you are a malfunction.
From: IntergalacticExpandingPanda on 23 Dec 2008 21:20 On Dec 23, 1:18 pm, measekite <inkysti...(a)oem.com> wrote: > You are a real liar. Canon does not and never has made aftermarket ink so > it is not possible for you to use it in a fountain pen. It's marked clearly Canon PGI-5bk. It goes in my canon. I've used 16oz of it. It's canon ink. It works well enough in my fountain pen. KMP ink on the other hand has gotten some > > great reviews, and according to Measekite is superior to OEM. > > A REAL BIG FAT LIAR FROM A LIAR. NEVER SAID THAT AND NEVER WOULD. > Sorry, you said it twice dude. I spoke about the highlighter test, you said it's because it's better ink. Hey if you're going to recommend KMP ink for the Canon, great. I've never tried it. I have to admit, I've not been 100% pleased with the contrast offered by Canon OEM, and the aftermarket ink I'm using isn't any better.
From: Taliesyn on 23 Dec 2008 22:20 IntergalacticExpandingPanda <intergalacticexpandingpanda(a)hotmail.com> wrote in news:37418a3e-b910-4280-bf3f-d49139252a9a(a)g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com: > On Dec 23, 1:18�pm, measekite <inkysti...(a)oem.com> wrote: >> You are a real liar. �Canon does not and never has made aftermarket ink > so >> it is not possible for you to use it in a fountain pen. > > It's marked clearly Canon PGI-5bk. It goes in my canon. I've used > 16oz of it. It's canon ink. It works well enough in my fountain > pen. �KMP ink on the other hand has gotten some >> > great reviews, and according to Measekite is superior to OEM. >> >> A REAL BIG FAT LIAR FROM A LIAR. �NEVER SAID THAT AND NEVER WOULD. >> > > Sorry, you said it twice dude. I spoke about the highlighter test, > you said it's because it's better ink. Hey if you're going to > recommend KMP ink for the Canon, great. I've never tried it. I have > to admit, I've not been 100% pleased with the contrast offered by > Canon OEM, and the aftermarket ink I'm using isn't any better. > > Measekite once posted a link to an aftermarket ink seller. Everyone here thanked him. So it's not the first time he's had a momentary lapse of good judgement! -Taliesyn
From: measekite on 24 Dec 2008 02:51
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:20:38 -0800, IntergalacticExpandingPanda wrote: > On Dec 23, 1:18 pm, measekite <inkysti...(a)oem.com> wrote: >> You are a real liar. Canon does not and never has made aftermarket ink so >> it is not possible for you to use it in a fountain pen. > > It's marked clearly Canon PGI-5bk. It goes in my canon. I've used > 16oz of it. It's canon ink. It works well enough in my fountain > pen. KMP ink on the other hand has gotten some >> > great reviews, and according to Measekite is superior to OEM. >> >> A REAL BIG FAT LIAR FROM A LIAR. NEVER SAID THAT AND NEVER WOULD. >> > > Sorry, you said it twice dude. I spoke about the highlighter test, > you said it's because it's better ink. Hey if you're going to > recommend KMP ink for the Canon, great. I've never tried it. I have > to admit, I've not been 100% pleased with the contrast offered by > Canon OEM, and the aftermarket ink I'm using isn't any better. Please do not answer my posts. Please killfile my posts. You are a screwball. You are so old that I do not wish to correspond with you ever. |