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From: T i m on 15 Jul 2010 07:52
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:24:37 +0100, Tim Streater
<timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

>In article <blnt36988vvdnat10qk04o6thvl824urd1(a)4ax.com>,
> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> What frustrates me (and I know you explained it above) is that they
>> (Canon) supplied two installer CDs, one says Windows and the other
>> says Macintosh, yet the Macintosh one doesn't (seem to) work. There
>> was no Linux CD and yet that (Ubuntu 10.04) prints ok. <sigh>
>
>Hmmm.

Hmmm2,
>
>I have a Canon MX700 which I use with no problems, initially under 10.5
>and now 10.6. I use it via the LAN now, but I think I had to connect to
>it via USB for initial setup and so the driver could find it.

Hmmm3, we haven't tried that (so worth a go) as I /think/ it asks at
the beginning if the printer is going to be used via USB or Network
(although that may have just been on the Windows install [1]). It also
seems to find the printer ok during the install but it seems to be the
(manual) bit in the middle where it actually adds the printer is where
things go wrong. Maybe (as you say) installing it via USB first them
telling it it's elsewhere might be a workaround.
>
>I did a standard migration to 10.6, and then as soon as I wanted to use
>it, 10.6 found or downloaded new drivers with no effort on my part. Or
>maybe I also needed to connect via USB initially on 10.6, can't
>remember, but it was a simple enough procedure.

I assumed it should have been. ;-(
>
>Dunno if any of that helps.

It could well be so thanks.

T i m

[1] On the Windows install you just press go, answer the USB / Network
question, it shows you what printers it's found, you select the
(typically, only) one and then it's done. No need to enter any 'Add
printer' dialogue boxes so (therefore) less chance for any finger
trouble ... 'it just works' etc. Maybe with a different driver the Mac
installer would have done the same <shrug>. Ok, I did have to Google
to connect the printer to Ubuntu but I think the first hit gave the
solution and it worked 1st time. The fact it didn't work on the Mac
wasn't frustrating, it was trying to figure out on the Mac how to
resolve / experiment with it that was. I'm sure it must just be me,
that I find it so convoluted and illogical, little pluses and minuses
to add or remove a printer, test print options up in the toolbar, no
obvious generic 'preferences' pane that covers everything to do with
the printer. I find it easy on Windows (not surprising etc) and
similarly under Ubuntu (I've added many printers under it now although
most are found automagically, local or network).

p.s. On the Mac (10.5), is there a way to get to / configure Bonjour
or is it just 'there'?
From: David Sankey on 15 Jul 2010 08:31
In article <blnt36988vvdnat10qk04o6thvl824urd1(a)4ax.com>,
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> What frustrates me (and I know you explained it above) is that they
> (Canon) supplied two installer CDs, one says Windows and the other
> says Macintosh, yet the Macintosh one doesn't (seem to) work. There
> was no Linux CD and yet that (Ubuntu 10.04) prints ok. <sigh>

OK...

First the potentially helpful suggestion:

Ubuntu will be using GIMP, so digging there will tell you which GIMP
driver to use.

Then the probably useless suggestion:

We had similar issues with our Canon C5045. Here the solution was:
i) install the Canon drivers but don't create a print queue
ii) set up a queue to the printer but with the generic postscript driver
iii) switch the driver on this queue to the Canon one.

Reason that this is useless is that the C5045 is a postscript device,
whereas the MX350 isn't. But creating a new print queue might clean
things out...

Good luck,

Dave
From: David Sankey on 15 Jul 2010 08:57
In article
<David.Sankey-CF01DD.13313015072010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
David Sankey <David.Sankey(a)stfc.ac.uk> wrote:

> In article <blnt36988vvdnat10qk04o6thvl824urd1(a)4ax.com>,
> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > What frustrates me (and I know you explained it above) is that they
> > (Canon) supplied two installer CDs, one says Windows and the other
> > says Macintosh, yet the Macintosh one doesn't (seem to) work. There
> > was no Linux CD and yet that (Ubuntu 10.04) prints ok. <sigh>
>
> OK...
>
> First the potentially helpful suggestion:
>
> Ubuntu will be using GIMP, so digging there will tell you which GIMP
> driver to use.

For GIMP read CUPS. Sorry.
From: T i m on 15 Jul 2010 09:04
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:31:30 +0100, David Sankey
<David.Sankey(a)stfc.ac.uk> wrote:

>In article <blnt36988vvdnat10qk04o6thvl824urd1(a)4ax.com>,
> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> What frustrates me (and I know you explained it above) is that they
>> (Canon) supplied two installer CDs, one says Windows and the other
>> says Macintosh, yet the Macintosh one doesn't (seem to) work. There
>> was no Linux CD and yet that (Ubuntu 10.04) prints ok. <sigh>
>
>OK...
>
>First the potentially helpful suggestion:
>
>Ubuntu will be using GIMP, so digging there will tell you which GIMP
>driver to use.

Ok thanks. When you say 'to use' do you mean directly (as in copy
across to the Mac) or the actual name and therefore give us something
to look up on the Mac? (sorry for what could be a dumb question but
I'm not really familiar with the inner working of either system).
>
>Then the probably useless suggestion:
>
>We had similar issues with our Canon C5045. Here the solution was:
>i) install the Canon drivers but don't create a print queue

FWIMBW etc I couldn't see how you would create a queue anyway and the
pull down was blank (the hint / prompt was to 'leave it blank' in any
case).

>ii) set up a queue to the printer but with the generic postscript driver

Ok, then I might need a bit of help re how that's done please?

>iii) switch the driver on this queue to the Canon one.

Ok (should be obvious when the queue exists etc).
>
>Reason that this is useless is that the C5045 is a postscript device,
>whereas the MX350 isn't. But creating a new print queue might clean
>things out...

Understood.
>
>Good luck,

Thanks. I think I'm happier now I have re-familiarised myself with
this area on the Mac and happier that it looks like I haven't missed
anything 'obvious'. ;-)

Whilst 'she' (the main user of the Macbook) has said 'don't worry if
you can't get it working' I know she would like it working and as they
are nice people I'm keen to help if I can.


Cheers, T i m
From: T i m on 15 Jul 2010 09:16
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:57:15 +0100, David Sankey
<David.Sankey(a)stfc.ac.uk> wrote:

>In article
><David.Sankey-CF01DD.13313015072010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Sankey <David.Sankey(a)stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <blnt36988vvdnat10qk04o6thvl824urd1(a)4ax.com>,
>> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > What frustrates me (and I know you explained it above) is that they
>> > (Canon) supplied two installer CDs, one says Windows and the other
>> > says Macintosh, yet the Macintosh one doesn't (seem to) work. There
>> > was no Linux CD and yet that (Ubuntu 10.04) prints ok. <sigh>
>>
>> OK...
>>
>> First the potentially helpful suggestion:
>>
>> Ubuntu will be using GIMP, so digging there will tell you which GIMP
>> driver to use.
>
>For GIMP read CUPS. Sorry.

Ok, np and ta.

T i m
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