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From: Iarnrod on 14 Jan 2010 10:57 On Jan 13, 6:14 pm, knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > On Jan 13, 4:59 pm, "Peter Webb" > > > > <webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote: > > <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >news:7ab8427a-eed5-44c0-b2b9-31e6c4eb865e(a)p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > > On Jan 12, 10:07 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 12, 6:36 pm, DanB <a...(a)some.net> wrote: > > > > > Peter Webb wrote: > > > > > Perhaps you can outline your alternate theory of what happened on > > > > > 9/11, > > > > > which explains all this? > > > > > Why do you keep asking for this? > > > > He wants the kook to answer. Knowsknothing is of course refusing > > > because he has nothing. Peter is highlighting the FACT that 9/11 > > > twoofers don't really have any actual reasonable explanation for what > > > happened aside from the proven official findings. > > > He's just like Loonrod. > > He refuses to read. > > But then Loonrod is a pathological liar. > > But then says Loonrod "it's impossible." > > Then Loonrod lies and says "It' debunked" yet provides not one cite > > for anything. > > Loonrod thinks just by typing in the words makes it so.http://www.google.com/search?q=david+ray+griffin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq... > > > ______________________________ > > If you have a better explanation for the events of 9/11, why don't you tell > > us what is it? What's the big secret? > > Which events? > Be specific. > > The big picture of "the event" is called False Flag Operations.http://www..google.com/search?q=false+flag&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=... > The details of how and who will be debated (argued) for centuries. > It has been more than 45 years since the murder of JFK by corrupt > government insiders and we a still discerning the true who and hows. > What makes you think this will take any less time? > You think "anyone" who had anything to do with this world wide fraud > is going to just step up and say, "I helped spray nano-thermite on the > floor connections in between the ceilings at the WTC?" > It would be reported about as much as some guy claiming to be Jesus at > his second "coming." Got any evidence? No? Didn't think so.
From: Darwin123 on 14 Jan 2010 11:52 On Jan 10, 1:30 am, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 9, 11:26 pm, knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > On Jan 8, 4:48 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 8, 12:02 pm, knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > On Jan 7, 9:33 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 7, 9:10 pm, knowsknoth...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 7:48 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 6:33 pm, knowsknoth...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 5:27 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The Port > > Authoritys engineering consultant Buro Happold, helping with > > evaluation of the > > fireproofing upgrades, suggested the use of alternative > > materials (NIST 2005). Such > > alternative materials could have been spray-on nano-thermites > > substituted for intumescent > > paint or Interchar-like fireproofing primers (NASA 2006). It seems > > quite possible that > > this kind of substitution could have been made with few people > > noticing. > > Well, that rules this out as a source of what happened on 9/11!! > > You don't even understand what you posted, kook. Definition nano=magic
From: PV on 14 Jan 2010 15:24 knews4u2chew(a)yahoo.com writes: >The big picture of "the event" is called False Flag Operations. Prove it, don't say it. * -- * PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something like corkscrews.
From: AZ Nomad on 14 Jan 2010 16:40 On 14 Jan 2010 15:55:25 -0500, Al Dykes <adykes(a)panix.com> wrote: >None of the hundreds of scientists and engineers involved with writing >the 50 papers listed below seem to have any problem with the fact that >the towers collapsed by means of gravity. A conspiracy! It includes every reader too! >Engineering perspective of the collapse of WTC-I >Irfanoglu, A., Hoffmann, C.M. 2008 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 22 (1), >Collapse of towers as applied to September 11 events >Cherepanov, G.P. 2008 Materials Science 44 (4), pp. 489-499 >Modeling pre-evacuation delay by occupants in World Trade Center Towers 1 and 2 on September 11, 2001 >Kuligowski, E.D., Mileti, D.S. 2008 Fire Safety Journal >World Trade Center building disaster: Stimulus for innovations >Kodur, V.K.R. 2008 Indian Concrete Journal 82 (1), pp. 23-31 >A collective undergraduate class project reconstructing the September 11, 2001 world trade center fire >Marshall, A., Quintiere, J. 2007 ASEE Annual Conference and Exposition, Conference Proceedings >"A new era": The limits of engineering expertise in a post-9/11 world >Pfatteicher, S.K.A. 2007 International Symposium on Technology and Society, Proceedings, art. no. 4362228 >Progressive collapse of the World Trade Center: Simple analysis >Seffen, K.A. 2008 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 134 (2), pp. 125-132 >Scale modeling of the 96th floor of world trade center tower 1 >Wang, M., Chang, P., Quintiere, J., Marshall, A. 2007 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 21 (6), pp. 414-421 >Failure of welded floor truss connections from the exterior wall during collapse of the world trade center towers >Banovic, S.W., Siewert, T.A. 2007 Welding Journal (Miami, Fla) 86 (9), pp. 263-s-272-s >The collapse of the world trade center towers: A metallurgist's view >Gayle, F.W. 2007 MRS Bulletin 32 (9), pp. 710-716 >Building code changes reflect world trade center investigation >Hansen, B. 2007 Civil Engineering 77 (9), pp. 22+24-25 >Fire load in a steel building design >Razdolsky, L. 2008 Proceedings of the 4th International Structural Engineering and Construction Conference, ISEC-4 - Innovations in Structural Engineering and Construction 2, pp. 1163-1167 >The structural steel of the World Trade Center towers >Gayle, F.W., Banovic, S.W., Foecke, T., Fields, R.J., Luecke, W.E., McColskey, J.D., McCown, C., Siewert, T.A. 2006 Journal of Failure Analysis and Prevention 6 (5), pp. 5-8 >Progressive collapse of structures: Annotated bibliography and comparison of codes and standards >Mohamed, O.A. 2006 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 20 (4), art. no. 001604QCF, pp. 418-425 >A simple model of the World Trade Center fireball dynamics >Baum, H.R., Rehm, R.G., Quintiere, J.G. 2005 Proceedings of the Combustion Institute 30 II, pp. 2247-2254 >Impact of the Boeing 767 Aircraft into the World Trade Center >Karim, M.R., Hoo Fatt, M.S. 2005 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 131 (10), pp. 1066-1072 >High-fidelity simulation of large-scale structures >Hoffmann, C., Sameh, A., Grama, A. 2005 Lecture Notes in Computer Science 3515 (II), pp. 664-671 >Collapses of the world trade center towers >[No author name available] 2005 Indian Concrete Journal 79 (8), pp. 11-16 >Industry updates: Fireproofing, staircases cited in World Trade Center report >[No author name available] 2005 Journal of Failure Analysis and Prevention 5 (4), pp. 34 >September 11 and fracture mechanics - A retrospective >Cherepanov, G.P. 2005 International Journal of Fracture 132 (2), pp. L25-L26 >Structural responses of World Trade Center under aircraft attacks >Omika, Y., Fukuzawa, E., Koshika, N., Morikawa, H., Fukuda, R. 2005 Journal of Structural Engineering 131 (1), pp. 6-15 >Impact of the 2001 World Trade Center attack on critical interdependent infrastructures >Mendonga, D., Lee II, E.E., Wallace, W.A. 2004 Conference Proceedings - IEEE International Conference on Systems, Man and Cybernetics 5, pp. 4053-4058 >Use of high-efficiency energy absorbing device to arrest progressive collapse of tall building >Zhou, Q., Yu, T.X. 2004 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 130 (10), pp. 1177-1187 >Progressive analysis procedure for progressive collapse >Marjanishvili, S.M. 2004 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 18 (2), pp. 79-85 >Lessons learned on improving resistance of buildings to terrorist attacks >Corley, W.G. 2004 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 18 (2), pp. 68-78 >Anatomy of a disaster: A structural investigation of the World Trade Center collapses >Abboud, N., Levy, M., Tennant, D., Mould, J., Levine, H., King, S., Ekwueme, C., (...), Hart, G. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 360-370 >World Trade Center disaster: Damage/debris assessment >Thater, G.G., Panariello, G.F., Cuoco, D.A. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 383-392 >How did the WTC towers collapse: A new theory >Usmani, A.S., Chung, Y.C., Torero, J.L. 2003 Fire Safety Journal 38 (6), pp. 501-533 >Microstructural analysis of the steels from Buildings 7, & 1 or 2 from the World Trade Center >Biederman, R.R., Sullivan, E.M., Sisson Jr., R.D., Vander Voort, G.F. 2003 Microscopy and Microanalysis 9 (SUPPL. 2), pp. 550-551 >Brannigan, F.L. >"WTC: Lightweight Steel and High-Rise Buildings" >Fire Engineering v.155, no. 4, (2002): 145-150. >Analysis of the thermal exposure in the impact areas of the World Trade Center terrorist attacks >Beyler, C., White, D., Peatross, M., Trellis, J., Li, S., Luers, A., Hopkins, D. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 371-382 >Clifton, Charles G. >Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers >HERA: Innovation in Metals. 2001. 13 December 2001. >"Construction and Collapse Factors" >Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002): 106-108. >Bazant, Z.P., & Zhou, Y. >"Addendum to 'Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" (pdf) >Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 3, (2002): 369-370. >Corbett, G.P. >"Learning and Applying the Lessons of the WTC Disaster" >Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002.): 133-135. >"Dissecting the Collapses" >Civil Engineering ASCE v. 72, no. 5, (2002): 36-46. >Eagar, T.W., & Musso, C. >"Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation" >JOM v. 53, no. 12, (2001): 8-12. >Federal Emergency Management Agency, Therese McAllister, report editor. >World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations >(also available on-line) >Gabrielson, T.B., Poese, M.E., & Atchley, A.A. >"Acoustic and Vibration Background Noise in the Collapsed Structure of the World Trade Center" >The Journal of Acoustical Society of America v. 113, no. 1, (2003): 45-48. >"Collapse Lessons" >Fire Engineering v. 155, no. 10, (2002): 97-103 >Marechaux, T.G. >"TMS Hot Topic Symposium Examines WTC Collapse and Building Engineering" >JOM, v. 54, no. 4, (2002): 13-17. >Monahan, B. >"World Trade Center Collapse-Civil Engineering Considerations" >Practice Periodical on Structural Design and Construction v. 7, no. 3, (2002): 134-135. >Newland, D.E., & Cebon, D. >"Could the World Trade Center Have Been Modified to Prevent Its Collapse?" >Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 7, (2002):795-800. >National Instititue of Stamdards and Technology: Congressional and Legislative Affairs >.Learning from 9/11: Understanding the Collapse of the World Trade Center. >Statement of Dr. Arden L. Bement, Jr., before Committee of Science House of Representatives, United States Congress on March 6, 2002. >Pinsker, Lisa, M. >"Applying Geology at the World Trade Center Site" >Geotimes v. 46, no. 11, (2001). >The print copy has 3-D images. >Public Broadcasting Station (PBS) >Why the Towers Fell: A Companion Website to the Television Documentary. >NOVA (Science Programming On Air and Online) >Post, N.M. >"No Code Changes Recommended in World Trade Center Report" >ENR v. 248, no. 14, (2002): 14. >Post, N.M. >"Study Absolves Twin Tower Trusses, Fireproofing" >ENR v. 249, no. 19, (2002): 12-14. >The University of Sydney, Department of Civil Engineering >World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects >A resource site. >"WTC Engineers Credit Design in Saving Thousands of Lives" >ENR v. 247, no. 16, (2001): 12. >Performance based structural fire engineering for modern building design >Rini, D., Lamont, S. 2008 Proceedings of the 2008 Structures Congress - Structures Congress 2008: Crossing the Borders 314
From: Peter Webb on 15 Jan 2010 00:14
Are you going to tell us what you think actually happened on 9/11 ? For example, what do you think crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11 ? |