From: Iarnrod on
On Jan 13, 6:14 pm, knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 13, 4:59 pm, "Peter Webb"
>
>
>
> <webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > <knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >news:7ab8427a-eed5-44c0-b2b9-31e6c4eb865e(a)p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jan 12, 10:07 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 12, 6:36 pm, DanB <a...(a)some.net> wrote:
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> > > > Peter Webb wrote:
> > > > > Perhaps you can outline your alternate theory of what happened on
> > > > > 9/11,
> > > > > which explains all this?
>
> > > > Why do you keep asking for this?
>
> > > He wants the kook to answer. Knowsknothing is of course refusing
> > > because he has nothing. Peter is highlighting the FACT that 9/11
> > > twoofers don't really have any actual reasonable explanation for what
> > > happened aside from the proven official findings.
>
> > He's just like Loonrod.
> > He refuses to read.
> > But then Loonrod is a pathological liar.
> > But then says Loonrod "it's impossible."
> > Then Loonrod lies and says "It' debunked" yet provides not one cite
> > for anything.
> > Loonrod thinks just by typing in the words makes it so.http://www.google.com/search?q=david+ray+griffin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq...
>
> > ______________________________
> > If you have a better explanation for the events of 9/11, why don't you tell
> > us what is it? What's the big secret?
>
> Which events?
> Be specific.
>
> The big picture of "the event" is called False Flag Operations.http://www..google.com/search?q=false+flag&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=...
> The details of how and who will be debated (argued) for centuries.
> It has been more than 45 years since the murder of JFK by corrupt
> government insiders and we a still discerning the true who and hows.
> What makes you think this will take any less time?
> You think "anyone" who had anything to do with this world wide fraud
> is going to just step up and say, "I helped spray nano-thermite on the
> floor connections in between the ceilings at the WTC?"
> It would be reported about as much as some guy claiming to be Jesus at
> his second "coming."

Got any evidence?

No?

Didn't think so.
From: Darwin123 on
On Jan 10, 1:30 am, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 11:26 pm, knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
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>
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> > On Jan 8, 4:48 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 8, 12:02 pm, knews4u2c...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 7, 9:33 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jan 7, 9:10 pm, knowsknoth...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jan 7, 7:48 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Jan 7, 6:33 pm, knowsknoth...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Jan 7, 5:27 pm, Iarnrod <iarn...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The Port
> > Authority’s engineering consultant Buro Happold, helping with
> > evaluation of the
> > fireproofing upgrades, suggested the use of “alternative
> > materials” (NIST 2005). Such
> > alternative materials could have been spray-on nano-thermites
> > substituted for intumescent
> > paint or Interchar-like fireproofing primers (NASA 2006). It seems
> > quite possible that
> > this kind of substitution could have been made with few people
> > noticing.
>
> Well, that rules this out as a source of what happened on 9/11!!
>
> You don't even understand what you posted, kook.
Definition
nano=magic
From: PV on
knews4u2chew(a)yahoo.com writes:
>The big picture of "the event" is called False Flag Operations.

Prove it, don't say it. *
--
* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews.
From: AZ Nomad on
On 14 Jan 2010 15:55:25 -0500, Al Dykes <adykes(a)panix.com> wrote:

>None of the hundreds of scientists and engineers involved with writing
>the 50 papers listed below seem to have any problem with the fact that
>the towers collapsed by means of gravity.


A conspiracy! It includes every reader too!




>Engineering perspective of the collapse of WTC-I
>Irfanoglu, A., Hoffmann, C.M. 2008 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 22 (1),

>Collapse of towers as applied to September 11 events
>Cherepanov, G.P. 2008 Materials Science 44 (4), pp. 489-499

>Modeling pre-evacuation delay by occupants in World Trade Center Towers 1 and 2 on September 11, 2001
>Kuligowski, E.D., Mileti, D.S. 2008 Fire Safety Journal

>World Trade Center building disaster: Stimulus for innovations
>Kodur, V.K.R. 2008 Indian Concrete Journal 82 (1), pp. 23-31

>A collective undergraduate class project reconstructing the September 11, 2001 world trade center fire
>Marshall, A., Quintiere, J. 2007 ASEE Annual Conference and Exposition, Conference Proceedings

>"A new era": The limits of engineering expertise in a post-9/11 world
>Pfatteicher, S.K.A. 2007 International Symposium on Technology and Society, Proceedings, art. no. 4362228

>Progressive collapse of the World Trade Center: Simple analysis
>Seffen, K.A. 2008 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 134 (2), pp. 125-132

>Scale modeling of the 96th floor of world trade center tower 1
>Wang, M., Chang, P., Quintiere, J., Marshall, A. 2007 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 21 (6), pp. 414-421

>Failure of welded floor truss connections from the exterior wall during collapse of the world trade center towers
>Banovic, S.W., Siewert, T.A. 2007 Welding Journal (Miami, Fla) 86 (9), pp. 263-s-272-s

>The collapse of the world trade center towers: A metallurgist's view
>Gayle, F.W. 2007 MRS Bulletin 32 (9), pp. 710-716

>Building code changes reflect world trade center investigation
>Hansen, B. 2007 Civil Engineering 77 (9), pp. 22+24-25

>Fire load in a steel building design
>Razdolsky, L. 2008 Proceedings of the 4th International Structural Engineering and Construction Conference, ISEC-4 - Innovations in Structural Engineering and Construction 2, pp. 1163-1167

>The structural steel of the World Trade Center towers
>Gayle, F.W., Banovic, S.W., Foecke, T., Fields, R.J., Luecke, W.E., McColskey, J.D., McCown, C., Siewert, T.A. 2006 Journal of Failure Analysis and Prevention 6 (5), pp. 5-8

>Progressive collapse of structures: Annotated bibliography and comparison of codes and standards
>Mohamed, O.A. 2006 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 20 (4), art. no. 001604QCF, pp. 418-425

>A simple model of the World Trade Center fireball dynamics
>Baum, H.R., Rehm, R.G., Quintiere, J.G. 2005 Proceedings of the Combustion Institute 30 II, pp. 2247-2254

>Impact of the Boeing 767 Aircraft into the World Trade Center
>Karim, M.R., Hoo Fatt, M.S. 2005 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 131 (10), pp. 1066-1072

>High-fidelity simulation of large-scale structures
>Hoffmann, C., Sameh, A., Grama, A. 2005 Lecture Notes in Computer Science 3515 (II), pp. 664-671

>Collapses of the world trade center towers
>[No author name available] 2005 Indian Concrete Journal 79 (8), pp. 11-16

>Industry updates: Fireproofing, staircases cited in World Trade Center report
>[No author name available] 2005 Journal of Failure Analysis and Prevention 5 (4), pp. 34

>September 11 and fracture mechanics - A retrospective
>Cherepanov, G.P. 2005 International Journal of Fracture 132 (2), pp. L25-L26

>Structural responses of World Trade Center under aircraft attacks
>Omika, Y., Fukuzawa, E., Koshika, N., Morikawa, H., Fukuda, R. 2005 Journal of Structural Engineering 131 (1), pp. 6-15

>Impact of the 2001 World Trade Center attack on critical interdependent infrastructures
>Mendonga, D., Lee II, E.E., Wallace, W.A. 2004 Conference Proceedings - IEEE International Conference on Systems, Man and Cybernetics 5, pp. 4053-4058

>Use of high-efficiency energy absorbing device to arrest progressive collapse of tall building
>Zhou, Q., Yu, T.X. 2004 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 130 (10), pp. 1177-1187

>Progressive analysis procedure for progressive collapse
>Marjanishvili, S.M. 2004 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 18 (2), pp. 79-85

>Lessons learned on improving resistance of buildings to terrorist attacks
>Corley, W.G. 2004 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 18 (2), pp. 68-78

>Anatomy of a disaster: A structural investigation of the World Trade Center collapses
>Abboud, N., Levy, M., Tennant, D., Mould, J., Levine, H., King, S., Ekwueme, C., (...), Hart, G. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 360-370

>World Trade Center disaster: Damage/debris assessment
>Thater, G.G., Panariello, G.F., Cuoco, D.A. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 383-392

>How did the WTC towers collapse: A new theory
>Usmani, A.S., Chung, Y.C., Torero, J.L. 2003 Fire Safety Journal 38 (6), pp. 501-533

>Microstructural analysis of the steels from Buildings 7, & 1 or 2 from the World Trade Center
>Biederman, R.R., Sullivan, E.M., Sisson Jr., R.D., Vander Voort, G.F. 2003 Microscopy and Microanalysis 9 (SUPPL. 2), pp. 550-551

>Brannigan, F.L.
>"WTC: Lightweight Steel and High-Rise Buildings"
>Fire Engineering v.155, no. 4, (2002): 145-150.

>Analysis of the thermal exposure in the impact areas of the World Trade Center terrorist attacks
>Beyler, C., White, D., Peatross, M., Trellis, J., Li, S., Luers, A., Hopkins, D. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 371-382

>Clifton, Charles G.
>Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers
>HERA: Innovation in Metals. 2001. 13 December 2001.

>"Construction and Collapse Factors"
>Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002): 106-108.

>Bazant, Z.P., & Zhou, Y.
>"Addendum to 'Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" (pdf)
>Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 3, (2002): 369-370.

>Corbett, G.P.
>"Learning and Applying the Lessons of the WTC Disaster"
>Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002.): 133-135.

>"Dissecting the Collapses"
>Civil Engineering ASCE v. 72, no. 5, (2002): 36-46.

>Eagar, T.W., & Musso, C.
>"Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation"
>JOM v. 53, no. 12, (2001): 8-12.

>Federal Emergency Management Agency, Therese McAllister, report editor.
>World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations
>(also available on-line)

>Gabrielson, T.B., Poese, M.E., & Atchley, A.A.
>"Acoustic and Vibration Background Noise in the Collapsed Structure of the World Trade Center"
>The Journal of Acoustical Society of America v. 113, no. 1, (2003): 45-48.

>"Collapse Lessons"
>Fire Engineering v. 155, no. 10, (2002): 97-103

>Marechaux, T.G.
>"TMS Hot Topic Symposium Examines WTC Collapse and Building Engineering"
>JOM, v. 54, no. 4, (2002): 13-17.

>Monahan, B.
>"World Trade Center Collapse-Civil Engineering Considerations"
>Practice Periodical on Structural Design and Construction v. 7, no. 3, (2002): 134-135.

>Newland, D.E., & Cebon, D.
>"Could the World Trade Center Have Been Modified to Prevent Its Collapse?"
>Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 7, (2002):795-800.

>National Instititue of Stamdards and Technology: Congressional and Legislative Affairs
>.Learning from 9/11: Understanding the Collapse of the World Trade Center.
>Statement of Dr. Arden L. Bement, Jr., before Committee of Science House of Representatives, United States Congress on March 6, 2002.

>Pinsker, Lisa, M.
>"Applying Geology at the World Trade Center Site"
>Geotimes v. 46, no. 11, (2001).
>The print copy has 3-D images.

>Public Broadcasting Station (PBS)
>Why the Towers Fell: A Companion Website to the Television Documentary.
>NOVA (Science Programming On Air and Online)

>Post, N.M.
>"No Code Changes Recommended in World Trade Center Report"
>ENR v. 248, no. 14, (2002): 14.

>Post, N.M.
>"Study Absolves Twin Tower Trusses, Fireproofing"
>ENR v. 249, no. 19, (2002): 12-14.

>The University of Sydney, Department of Civil Engineering
>World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects
>A resource site.

>"WTC Engineers Credit Design in Saving Thousands of Lives"
>ENR v. 247, no. 16, (2001): 12.


>Performance based structural fire engineering for modern building design
>Rini, D., Lamont, S. 2008 Proceedings of the 2008 Structures Congress - Structures Congress 2008: Crossing the Borders 314

From: Peter Webb on
Are you going to tell us what you think actually happened on 9/11 ?

For example, what do you think crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11 ?