From: Andy Hewitt on 17 May 2010 18:36 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Andy Hewitt <thewildrover(a)me.com> wrote: > > > Shame, I thought that'd make a fine 'get the text on the page' editor. > > I used to use it for that under sys 8.1, I forget how... Oh yes, I had > an old ancient IBM laptop, but Protext fairly flew on it. Yeah, it was fast enough on an ST too - faster than most are now indeed. -- Andy Hewitt <http://web.me.com/andrewhewitt1/>
From: Elliott Roper on 17 May 2010 22:27 In article <1jingbk.1i1u2rb1uq0m3aN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>, Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote: > > > In truth, what most people actually want is a typewriter that allows > > correction. It lets them concentate on the document itself, rather than > > them having to learn how to use any sort of tool. > > Yes, absolutely [1]. > > The only real problem is the next poor sod (me) who has to get it sorted > for the following stage. You really should grab Clive Huggan's Bend Word... use it as a reference rather than a textbook. What you need is the stuff on styles. I think he explains how he solved the hard-coded manuscript problem in there. He has a standard template with all the document's styles, then does a copy and 'paste to match style' to wrestle other people's stuff into shape. I do something similar when creating big docs from many contributors, except I slurp it straight into InDesign using its styles. It is clumsier than Word, but the result is far better. -- To de-mung my e-mail address:- fsnospam$elliott$$ PGP Fingerprint: 1A96 3CF7 637F 896B C810 E199 7E5C A9E4 8E59 E248
From: Peter Ceresole on 18 May 2010 02:05 Elliott Roper <nospam(a)yrl.co.uk> wrote: > > The only real problem is the next poor sod (me) who has to get it sorted > > for the following stage. > > You really should grab Clive Huggan's Bend Word Fortunately (1) it's a fairly rare happening and (2) the docs involved aren't too large. As problems go, it's a kitten rather than a tiger. -- Peter
From: Steve Firth on 18 May 2010 02:31 Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > These are clever people. And yet... One of them submitted an article for > publication; she has a PhD in her subject and must have committed a > truckload of Word files. She submitted one that looked perfect, except > that the whole thing was hard coded. Hard spaces, hard page breaks, > footnotes that were correctly set out except that the placing was hard, > and the indents were spaces... I know this person well, she is extremely > intelligent and superbly organised. I'd trust her with anything... So do > her students. But sorting out that article was *interesting*. I spend most days of most weeks reviewing papers by people with PhDs. Collectively the worst bunch of tinkerers and document mucker-uppers in existence. And the more esoteric the subject and the cleverer the individual the bigger the crimes against good layout and sensible practice. Also, interestingly, usually the cleverer the person the more problems they seem to have accepting boring conventions and working to schedules, plans, templates and schemes.
From: Duncan Kennedy on 18 May 2010 05:45
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Duncan Kennedy <nospam(a)nospamottersonbg.couk> wrote: > > > Still have it on ROM in a ROM Box with spellchecker chip somewhere. > > Protext/Promerge/Prospell/Utopia, wasn't it? Have Protex and Prospell - Utopia sounds familiar - nit sure about Promerge. As I remember, there wers 6 slots in the standard box(?) and mine was full. One was tools of some kind. Was it Amstrad or STE? I keep thinking the latter but can't be sure. -- duncank |