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From: John Barnes on 27 Dec 2006 16:29 Gets very frustrating sometimes :-)) "Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message news:CC3C7791-1601-4430-A3C8-786BEA0E574F(a)microsoft.com... > As we've all said from the beginning. Please provide the crash codes. We > can't help you if you won't tell us what the problem is. "crash" could be > anything. It almost certainly is a hardware problem, but WHAT hardware > only the stop error codes will tell us. > > Complaining about MS when it's a hardware or driver problem is not going > to help anyone, especially you. Providing the details of the problem might > allow us to point you at a solution. (And just to be completely clear - MS > is NOT responsible for hardware drivers. The OEMs are.) > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 > > "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B19C23EA-4CB0-4A6E-A467-817FA89DF281(a)microsoft.com... >> You know who knows, and why should it matter? If MS is updating your >> system >> then why would they force drivers into it that will hose you up? I have >> since >> reloaded the most current driver for my Mother board and video card and >> the >> same system crashes keep happening. I keep reading the praise of MS, but >> in >> the same breath they say things like don't do a MS online update and the >> such??? I'm not a system wise man, but if it looks like "" and smells >> like "" >> then I'm not going to drink the kool aid! >> >> "Dshai" wrote: >> >>> I guess my first question is going to be whether or not the upgrade from >>> MS >>> included any device drivers, this can and has caused past problems for >>> myself and several others that I know. >>> >>> Dshai >>> >>> "DP" <nospamxx(a)xyzddd.com> wrote in message >>> news:ORrFJqWKHHA.1064(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> > >>> > You've gotten a number of good responses here. The only thing I would >>> > add >>> > to those would be a request for more system specs. >>> > You say you have AMD 4800 X2 64 bit processor. What else? How much >>> > ram; >>> > how is your video being done; hard drive size, etc.? >>> > Though your processor should not be an issue here, other factors may >>> > be >>> > part of the problem if they're not muscular enough to support the >>> > 64-bit >>> > dual-core processor and the 64-bit OS. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy!@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> > news:886290CA-3988-442F-A880-E3023CF11E12(a)microsoft.com... >>> >>I purchased XP Pro x64 and installed it on my AMD 4800 system a couple >>> >>of >>> >> months ago, however the system has become so unstable that it just >>> >> crashes >>> >> without indication or reason... just sitting idle it will crash and >>> >> reboot >>> >> it's self. I have downloaded and installed all new AMD drivers to no >>> >> avail! >>> >> Has anyone else experiences this and if so how do I fix this OS? P.S> >>> >> computers works flawless on a LINUX OS! >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >
From: Dshai on 27 Dec 2006 18:32 The reason it matters is simple, MS often provides driver updates, they are generally chipset based, some video cards and even NIC's don't like this, they only function with manufacture's drivers, you want help, sarcasm and whining won't help, answering questions and providing the information needed to help you will. Dshai "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B19C23EA-4CB0-4A6E-A467-817FA89DF281(a)microsoft.com... > You know who knows, and why should it matter? If MS is updating your > system > then why would they force drivers into it that will hose you up? I have > since > reloaded the most current driver for my Mother board and video card and > the > same system crashes keep happening. I keep reading the praise of MS, but > in > the same breath they say things like don't do a MS online update and the > such??? I'm not a system wise man, but if it looks like "" and smells like > "" > then I'm not going to drink the kool aid! > > "Dshai" wrote: > >> I guess my first question is going to be whether or not the upgrade from >> MS >> included any device drivers, this can and has caused past problems for >> myself and several others that I know. >> >> Dshai >> >> "DP" <nospamxx(a)xyzddd.com> wrote in message >> news:ORrFJqWKHHA.1064(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> > >> > You've gotten a number of good responses here. The only thing I would >> > add >> > to those would be a request for more system specs. >> > You say you have AMD 4800 X2 64 bit processor. What else? How much ram; >> > how is your video being done; hard drive size, etc.? >> > Though your processor should not be an issue here, other factors may be >> > part of the problem if they're not muscular enough to support the >> > 64-bit >> > dual-core processor and the 64-bit OS. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy!@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> > news:886290CA-3988-442F-A880-E3023CF11E12(a)microsoft.com... >> >>I purchased XP Pro x64 and installed it on my AMD 4800 system a couple >> >>of >> >> months ago, however the system has become so unstable that it just >> >> crashes >> >> without indication or reason... just sitting idle it will crash and >> >> reboot >> >> it's self. I have downloaded and installed all new AMD drivers to no >> >> avail! >> >> Has anyone else experiences this and if so how do I fix this OS? P.S> >> >> computers works flawless on a LINUX OS! >> > >> > >> >> >>
From: Colin Barnhorst on 27 Dec 2006 18:48 MS's driver updates are supplied by the manufacturers. "Dshai" <dshai(a)indy.rr.com> wrote in message news:%23Ld7b9gKHHA.1280(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > The reason it matters is simple, MS often provides driver updates, they > are generally chipset based, some video cards and even NIC's don't like > this, they only function with manufacture's drivers, you want help, > sarcasm and whining won't help, answering questions and providing the > information needed to help you will. > > Dshai > >
From: Dshai on 27 Dec 2006 20:00 Often not the actual card's manufacturer, Nvidia drivers are listed as an update for cards the have the Nvidia chipset but won't run on their drivers alone due to manufacturer's proprietary drivers or firmware, using the "generic" drivers from the update can cause crashes or even the inability to complete the boot, reverting to the post screen when the drivers are loaded, This particular piece of information comes from personal, and professional experience. Dshai "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:1B20C39A-12F1-49B1-8C03-F10C3231EF3F(a)microsoft.com... > MS's driver updates are supplied by the manufacturers. > > "Dshai" <dshai(a)indy.rr.com> wrote in message > news:%23Ld7b9gKHHA.1280(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> The reason it matters is simple, MS often provides driver updates, they >> are generally chipset based, some video cards and even NIC's don't like >> this, they only function with manufacture's drivers, you want help, >> sarcasm and whining won't help, answering questions and providing the >> information needed to help you will. >> >> Dshai >> >> >
From: GoingCrazy! on 27 Dec 2006 20:57
OK fair enough, but I have no idea how to give you these "Crash codes" ? I get the blue screen of death with about a page of numbers and letters. I can't print screen them or copy them or frankly do anything but push the ON/OFF switch and restart the computer. If there is a place in the system where these codes are stored and I can cut and paste them, then please advise me on how to do this? Like I said, I am not a systems guy and all of this beating my head against the wall is new to me. From what I gather others are using the same hardware configurations as I am with none of these issues, and the OEMs are turning out updates to drivers on a weekly basis, so I'm not sure that it's a driver issue at this point? Maybe I'm missing something here? Is there a turbo button I forgot to push (smile)? "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote: > As we've all said from the beginning. Please provide the crash codes. We > can't help you if you won't tell us what the problem is. "crash" could be > anything. It almost certainly is a hardware problem, but WHAT hardware only > the stop error codes will tell us. > > Complaining about MS when it's a hardware or driver problem is not going to > help anyone, especially you. Providing the details of the problem might > allow us to point you at a solution. (And just to be completely clear - MS > is NOT responsible for hardware drivers. The OEMs are.) > > -- > Charlie. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 > > "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B19C23EA-4CB0-4A6E-A467-817FA89DF281(a)microsoft.com... > > You know who knows, and why should it matter? If MS is updating your > > system > > then why would they force drivers into it that will hose you up? I have > > since > > reloaded the most current driver for my Mother board and video card and > > the > > same system crashes keep happening. I keep reading the praise of MS, but > > in > > the same breath they say things like don't do a MS online update and the > > such??? I'm not a system wise man, but if it looks like "" and smells like > > "" > > then I'm not going to drink the kool aid! > > > > "Dshai" wrote: > > > >> I guess my first question is going to be whether or not the upgrade from > >> MS > >> included any device drivers, this can and has caused past problems for > >> myself and several others that I know. > >> > >> Dshai > >> > >> "DP" <nospamxx(a)xyzddd.com> wrote in message > >> news:ORrFJqWKHHA.1064(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> > > >> > You've gotten a number of good responses here. The only thing I would > >> > add > >> > to those would be a request for more system specs. > >> > You say you have AMD 4800 X2 64 bit processor. What else? How much ram; > >> > how is your video being done; hard drive size, etc.? > >> > Though your processor should not be an issue here, other factors may be > >> > part of the problem if they're not muscular enough to support the > >> > 64-bit > >> > dual-core processor and the 64-bit OS. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "GoingCrazy!" <GoingCrazy!@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> > news:886290CA-3988-442F-A880-E3023CF11E12(a)microsoft.com... > >> >>I purchased XP Pro x64 and installed it on my AMD 4800 system a couple > >> >>of > >> >> months ago, however the system has become so unstable that it just > >> >> crashes > >> >> without indication or reason... just sitting idle it will crash and > >> >> reboot > >> >> it's self. I have downloaded and installed all new AMD drivers to no > >> >> avail! > >> >> Has anyone else experiences this and if so how do I fix this OS? P.S> > >> >> computers works flawless on a LINUX OS! > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > |