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From: RayLopez99 on 5 Jun 2010 20:39
On Jun 6, 3:19 am, RayLopez99 <raylope...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I just checked to see if the modem works.  It was working (years
> ago) under Windows 2000 on this old Pentium II with limited RAM.
>
> I configured the modem using the Damn Small Linux Control Panel, using
> the standard defaults (PPP for example, etc).  I'm not an expert on
> dialup modem settings--feel free to tell me what to do if you are--but
> using the defaults it should have worked.
>
> I had four choices for modem port:  ttys0 to s3, corresponding to COM1
> to COM4.  The tragic part was after I configured on COM port (it's not
> a good sign that under "auto recognize" the Control Panel module could
> not detect a modem), the Linux OS "locked" the modem apparently, so
> trying other COM ports gave the message ("Device ttys1 [COM2, the
> first port I tried] is locked by pid1044].  What is a pid?  Some
> software process that locked something.  How do you kill the process?
> Read the man page, I know, I know.  I guess I'd have to reboot to try
> the other ports.  But to be honest, I think either the modem died
> while the system was in mothballs, or DSL's control panel does not
> have the right parameters--though it said "these parameters [the
> default] work for Windows 95" so I assume the programmer had some
> background on the typical defaults.
>
> To be continued...I wonder if I can pick up a modem card somewhere for
> cheap...I'll ask the local computer guy...since it could be the
> hardware died while in storage, but that doesn't make much sense
> either.
>
> Linux is...pain-ware.  The pain, the pain!  But all the "fun" is in
> the installation I hear you hobbyists say!
>
> RL

Just thought of something: if I install an Ethernet card in the old
Pentium II, I have an old router, and I then connect the DSL modem
(which only has one port) to the router, will the DSL modem talk to
two computers? Of course, right? That's what a router does...Then I
can connect to the internet with the old pentium via Linux, right?

Let me check my hardware: any advice appreciated.

The DLS modem is a standard "speedtouch" model (French company).

The router [NOT A ROUTER--it's a switch] is actually a switch by
AsusTech found here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16833320044&Local=y
ASUS GX1005B 10/100Mbps Desktop Unmanaged Switch for Home/SOHO 5 x
RJ45 1K MAC Address Table has a power supply port and five ports.

Stupid question: why are there five ports on the back and not one is
labeled "input"? Do they all function as input/output, meaning the
speedtouch output goes into any of the five ports, then you use your
Ethernet cables from any of the remaining four ports to the two pcs?
If anybody knows off the top of their head let me know please. But
helpfully, there's a CD of the User's Manual (I would have freaked if
this switch had software drivers associated with it!) so I can also
check the User's Manual.

ITEM #2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHeck this out... just found this in storage.. (I save stuff and this
was something I bought at a garage sale in the USA...even has a
sticker "US only" (for the power I guess...will have to use a
transformer on it to switch to 220 V).

This is a D-LInk labeled "Ethernet Broadband Router"! No model
number--looks commercial--and has a port labeled "WAN" and four other
ports labeled 1 to 4.

Question for you network gurus: Should I use (and I think the answer
is yes) the D-link "Ethernet Broadband Router" rather than the
AsusTech "Switch"? But the switch has a MAC table in it too, right?
But the D-link, besides being a good company, looks very wickedly
commercial and high tech...what would be the advantage of using the D-
link over the Asustech? Both have MAC and function as routers, right?

Stupid question #2: if I go with the D-Link, I just power it up, plug
the speedtouch DSL modem into the "WAN" port as input, then ethernet
cables from two of the four other ports to my two PCs' ethernet card
ports, right? Then on bootup the PCs should both recognize the DSL
modem, right? And both can independently surf the internet via the
same DLS modem right? (with a performance penalty I assume for sharing
the same bandwidth of course).

Any advice appreciated. This is very cool if I can do this...

RL

From: RayLopez99 on 5 Jun 2010 20:43
On Jun 6, 3:39 am, RayLopez99 <raylope...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Background for alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt: DSL also stands for
Damn Small Linux, but here I'm using it for broadband.

I have two PCs that I want to surf the net with: one being the Windows
XP Pentium IV, the other being a Damn Small Linux OS Pentium II.
Right now only the WIndows machine connects to broadband via a direct
connection to the speedtouch DSL modem. I found two pieces of
hardware and am asking if I can use the same modem to service both
PCs, and asking which of the two pieces of hardware--a switch and a
router--is best to do this. I also have the ethernet cables needed
and power supplies for the two pieces of hardware.

Thanks.

RL
From: Mike Easter on 5 Jun 2010 21:00
Excessive crossposting. Pick one best one.

I never xpost; I'm posting this to achp-h only

RayLopez99 wrote:

> Just thought of something: if I install an Ethernet card in the old
> Pentium II, I have an old router, and I then connect the DSL modem
> (which only has one port) to the router, will the DSL modem talk to
> two computers?

Many DSL modem devices are 'gateways' - like routers, which can give out
translated addresses. In that case, you only need a switch to plug
multiple ethernets into. The DSL gateway has one ethernet but many IPs.
The switch has many ethernets to give out for the gateway device with
one port.

> Of course, right? That's what a router does...Then I
> can connect to the internet with the old pentium via Linux, right?
>
> Let me check my hardware: any advice appreciated.
>
> The DLS modem is a standard "speedtouch" model (French company).

Not 'standard' -- there are many alcatel/ thomson/ speedtouch models
including one which is a gateway with one ethernet port which can be
connected to a switch to provide more ports.

Name your speedtouch's modelno. Goodgrief.

> The router [NOT A ROUTER--it's a switch] is actually a switch by
> AsusTech found here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16833320044&Local=y
> ASUS GX1005B 10/100Mbps Desktop Unmanaged Switch for Home/SOHO 5 x
> RJ45 1K MAC Address Table has a power supply port and five ports.

That is the type of presentation you should have made for the speedtouch.

> Stupid question: why are there five ports on the back and not one is
> labeled "input"?

Because a 'smart switch' can figure it out. You can plug in the wan in
any port and the lan/s in any port.

> This is a D-LInk labeled "Ethernet Broadband Router"! No model
> number--looks commercial--and has a port labeled "WAN" and four other
> ports labeled 1 to 4.
>
> Question for you network gurus: Should I use (and I think the answer
> is yes) the D-link "Ethernet Broadband Router" rather than the
> AsusTech "Switch"?

That depends on your specific speedtouch which you have failed to
identify properly. Doh.

If your speedtouch is *not* a gateway type device, then you need the
router instead of the switch. If it is gateway, then you can use either
one with the speed touch.

> Stupid question #2:

Before we get too deep into stupid, please distinctly identify the
speedtouch.

> Any advice appreciated. This is very cool if I can do this...




--
Mike Easter
From: RayLopez99 on 6 Jun 2010 06:27
On Jun 6, 4:00 am, Mike Easter <Mi...(a)ster.invalid> wrote:
> Excessive crossposting.  Pick one best one.
>
> I never xpost;  I'm posting this to achp-h only

>
> If your speedtouch is *not* a gateway type device, then you need the
> router instead of the switch.  If it is gateway, then you can use either
> one with the speed touch.

But, failsafe logic: what's the harm in using the router *even if*
the speedtouch is a gateway type device? I guess you can have a
classic 'battle of the hardware controllers' if so, akin to two anti-
virus programs battling over the I/O data stream coming into a
computer's port, but I'm just guessing....anyway, I found the model
(Speedtouch 536, now renamed), see below for info.

>
> > Stupid question #2:
>
> Before we get too deep into stupid, please distinctly identify the
> speedtouch.

Below is the information I copied and pasted from online. One clue is
that the SpeedTouch (aka Technicolor) 536 model is also called below a
"Gateway", which is an old-fashioned word for router (http://
www.webopedia.com/TERM/G/gateway.html), but in this case I think they
are using it in the 'modern' fashion to simply mean a proxy server
node for the ISP to look to, that also has a built in firewall. I
think the 536 DSL modem is not therefore a true router. But, worse
case, why don't I try both solutions (first the D-Link router then the
AsusTech switch, though logically I guess I should reverse that order,
but I'm pretty sure the 536 is not a true router--it also came 'free'
from a Greek phone company, and the Greeks are notoriously cheap in
giving away free hardware--I seriously doubt they would give away an
expensive router-built-in DSL modem--they undoubtedly gave me the
cheapest DSL modem possible)?

I appreciate your help...this will be very cool if I can do this...but
it's rarely this easy with computers...we'll see.

RL

http://www.technicolor.com/en/hi/home-networking/dsl-fiber-products/dsl-modems-and-gateways/data-wired/adsl/technicolor-st536v6


St536v6
Multi-User ADSL2+ Gateway
Rapid Access for All
The Technicolor ST536(i) provides unmatched peace-of-mind to
operators looking to deploy a simple and flexible ADSL gateway
without making any comprise on performance and security.
USB or Ethernet ports can be used to connect to the
gateway, offering an interface for virtually any device
-computer or game console- accessing the Internet.
It also offers a fast, full-feature routing engine as well as
a solid firewall to ensure the best end-user experience.
easy Installation
With the Technicolor ST536(i), a new standard in user-friendliness
has been set. When the installation process is started the end-user
is only five clicks away from surfing the web. After connecting PC,
laptop, or local area network to the modem over the Ethernet or
USB interface, the advanced Setup Wizard will guide the end-user
through the installation process.
The Setup Wizard is easily customizable to the look-and-feel and
the network parameters of the service provider, offering a seamless
end-user experience to their customers.
Home Networking
This gateway is the ideal solution for residential and SOHO users
where there is an urgent need to share ADSL access with other
family members or colleagues. Residential users will especially
appreciate the fact that PCs, game consoles, PDAs, set top boxes,
and other devices can instantly connect to the Internet through a
single high-speed ADSL point of access.
Security
This ADSL residential gateway has a built-in firewall that denies
unauthorized access to all PCs and Internet devices hooked up to
the user’s broadband ADSL connection. The Technicolor ST536(i)’s
powerful firewall can be configured by end-users, equipment retailers
or service providers for a broad range of security policies and
requirements.
Attacks are stopped in the gateway and will not reach the
networked devices. With the Technicolor ST536(i), you’ll be secure
24/7.
Features at a Glance
■ ■ 1■Ethernet■port■and■1■USB■1.1■port
■ ■ Easy■to■use,■easy■to■install
■ ■ OS■independent
■ ■ Integrated■firewall
■ ■ TR-069■Remote■Management
©■Copyright■2010
Hardware Specifications
■ Interface■LAN 10/100Base-T■(RJ45)
MDI/MDI-x■autosensing
1■Ethernet■port
■ Interface■WAN ADSL■line■(RJ11)■for■ADSL/POTS
■ Dimensions 30■x■147■x■114mm■(1.18■x■5.78■x■4.48■in.)
■ Temperature 0°■to■40°■C■(32■■to■105■F)
■ Humidity ■20%■to■80%
■ AC■voltage 100■to■120,■220■to■240■V
■ Frequency 50/60■Hz
ADSl modem Specifications
■ ADSL ANSI,■ETSI,■Annex■A,■B
■ ADSL2 Annex■A,■B,■L
■ ADSL2+ Annex■A,■B
multi-User Router
■ ATM-Extensive■
multi■PVC
ATM■Quality■of■Service■
(UBR,■CBR,■VBR-rt,■VBR-nrt)
DSLForum■TR-37■autoconfiguration
■ Bridging Self■learning■bridge■at■wire■speed
■ IP■Routing UPnP*■certified■Internet■Gateway■Device,■enabling■
major■conferencing■and■gaming■technologies
IPSec■passthrough■from■multiple■LAN■clients,■
enabling■secure■homeworking
Supports■PPPoE,■PPPoA,■IPoA,■CIP,■ETHoA-DNS■
server■and■relay,■DHCP■server■and■relay
Network■Address■Translation■for■connection■
sharing,■including■support■for■SIP,■H.323,■Realaudio,■
FTP,■IRC,■IKE,■IPSec-ESP,■Jabber,■ILS,■…
Simultaneous■bridging■and■routing■of■PPPoE■
connections,■enabling■network■based■VPNs
management
■ OS■independent
■ Easy■set-up■wizard
■ Advanced■Management■via■telnet,■HTTP,■event■log
■ Integrated■firewall
■ Easy■SW■upgrade■wizard
■ TR-69■Remote■Management
USB Drivers
■ OS■Support Windows■98,■98SE,■2000,■ME,■XP■and■higher
Mac■OS9,■OSX■and■higher
■ Plug-and-play■installation
■ Simple■software■upgrade■procedure
■ USB■integrated■as■virtual■Ethernet■on■PC
content of the Box
■ ADSL■Gateway
■ Ethernet■cable■(RJ45)
■ Telephone■cable■(RJ11)
■ Cable■filter■(optional)
■ Power■adapter
■ Safety■leaflet
■ CD
ST536v6■back■panel
*■UPnPTM■is■a■certification■mark■of■the■UPnPTM■Implementers■Corporation
St536v6
Multi-User ADSL2+ Gateway
technical Specifications
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1, rue Jeanne d’Arc
92443 Issy-les-Moulineaux France
Tel. : 33(0)1 41 86 50 00 - Fax : 33 (0) 1 41 86 58 59
www.technicolor.com





From: owl on 6 Jun 2010 06:38
In comp.os.linux.advocacy RayLopez99 <raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a D-LInk labeled "Ethernet Broadband Router"!

Are you a grandmother? If not, then you should not be attempting this.

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