From: mpc755 on
On Jul 7, 11:04 am, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 11:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 11:15 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 6, 9:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 6, 8:40 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 6, 8:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:04 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 2:21 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement
> > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the
> > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters
> > > > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave
> > > > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the
> > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence
> > > > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into
> > > > > > > > > > chop) and
> > > > > > > > > > there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > slit experiment?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit.
>
> > > > > > > > > What happened to Aether Displacement?
>
> > > > > > > > Dark matter, dark energy, dark flow, dark fluid are all attempts at
> > > > > > > > describing the state of the aether. For those who insist aether must
> > > > > > > > be massless, dark matter is not massless. Dark matter and aether are
> > > > > > > > one in the same. There are no empty voids in space. All of three
> > > > > > > > dimensional space consists of mass. Whether it be dark matter and
> > > > > > > > matter, or aether and matter. It is obvious you are incapable of
> > > > > > > > understanding the physics of nature as you will undoubtedly not be
> > > > > > > > able to answer the final question in this post.
>
> > > > > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> > > > > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > > > > > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
>
> > > > > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > > > > > > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > > > > matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the
> > > > > > > > dark matter's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement
> > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the
> > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters
> > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave
> > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the
> > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence
> > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into
> > > > > > > > chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > slit experiment?
>
> > > > > > > > Because the particle always exits a single slit.
>
> > > > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > > > know the vacuum is a void and does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > > > > > You don't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > I bow in wonder at your confident Gnosticism!
>
> > > > > > Why don't you just answer the question?
>
> > > > > > It can't be because you can't, now can it?
>
> > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > know the vacuum is a void and does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > > > The correct answer is, you can't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > I might do an experiment that an intelligent fish might do to detect
> > > > > the presence of a hypothetical fluid he is said to be surrounded by,
> > > > > called "water."
>
> > > > > With the help of a friendly octopus (eight hands, you know), he
> > > > > constructs a tow object of variable cross section.  The experiment
> > > > > consists in towing the object when set at various sizes to see if the
> > > > > towing force required for movement at a fixed speed is constant or
> > > > > depends on its cross section.
>
> > > > > If constant, no water.  If greater at greater size, water.
>
> > > > > That is the frictional case.  For the frictionless case, he uses
> > > > > acceleration instead of speed.
>
> > > > > Uncle Ben
>
> > > > There is such an experiment which is often performed which is evidence
> > > > of the existence of dark matter.
>
> > > > It's called a double slit experiment.
>
> > > > In a double slit experiment the moving particle has an associated dark
> > > > matter displacement wave. The displacement wave enters and exits
> > > > multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits
> > > > altering the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
> > > > causes decoherence of the associated displacement wave and there is no
> > > > interference.
>
> > > > Why don't you just answer the following question?
>
> > > > It's because you know what the answer is.
>
> > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > know the vacuum does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > You don't.
>
> > > > The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment is evidence of the
> > > > existence of dark matter.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > If dark matter is displaced by familiar objects, then it should be
> > > able to be pumped out by vacuum pumps or compressed by compressors.
> > > We  should know its compressibility. It should not take the subtlety
> > > of diffraction experiments to detect it.
>
> > Maxwell's Displacement Current is displacement of dark matter.
>
> > A gravity wave is a dark matter wave.
>
> > > But I don't want to spoil your dream with rude reality.
>
> > > Carry on!
>
> > How do you know a vacuum does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > You don't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I rely on your characterization of dark matter:  It can be displaced
> by massive objects.
>
> One such massive object could be the piston of a pump in a cylinder.
> When at top-dead-center, there is no room in the cylinder for dark
> matter. With the valves closed, no dark matter can get in.  Then the
> piston is withdrawn, leaving a vacuum -- no dark matter.
>
> Uncle Ben
>
> ps: No charge.

You do realize there exists three dimensional space between the nuclei
of atoms which make up matter, correct?

Of course dark matter gets in. The three dimensional space between the
nuclei which make up your cylinder is analogous to leaving the windows
open.

Mass exists throughout three dimensional space.

A vacuum consists of dark matter.
From: mpc755 on
On Jul 7, 6:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 11:04 am, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 11:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 6, 11:15 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 6, 9:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 6, 8:40 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:04 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 2:21 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement
> > > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the
> > > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters
> > > > > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave
> > > > > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the
> > > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence
> > > > > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into
> > > > > > > > > > > chop) and
> > > > > > > > > > > there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > > slit experiment?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit.
>
> > > > > > > > > > What happened to Aether Displacement?
>
> > > > > > > > > Dark matter, dark energy, dark flow, dark fluid are all attempts at
> > > > > > > > > describing the state of the aether. For those who insist aether must
> > > > > > > > > be massless, dark matter is not massless. Dark matter and aether are
> > > > > > > > > one in the same. There are no empty voids in space. All of three
> > > > > > > > > dimensional space consists of mass. Whether it be dark matter and
> > > > > > > > > matter, or aether and matter. It is obvious you are incapable of
> > > > > > > > > understanding the physics of nature as you will undoubtedly not be
> > > > > > > > > able to answer the final question in this post.
>
> > > > > > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> > > > > > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > > > > > > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
>
> > > > > > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > > > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > > > > > > > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > > The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > > > > > matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the
> > > > > > > > > dark matter's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement
> > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the
> > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters
> > > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave
> > > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the
> > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence
> > > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into
> > > > > > > > > chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > slit experiment?
>
> > > > > > > > > Because the particle always exits a single slit.
>
> > > > > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > > > > know the vacuum is a void and does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > > > > > > You don't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > > I bow in wonder at your confident Gnosticism!
>
> > > > > > > Why don't you just answer the question?
>
> > > > > > > It can't be because you can't, now can it?
>
> > > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > > know the vacuum is a void and does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > > > > The correct answer is, you can't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > I might do an experiment that an intelligent fish might do to detect
> > > > > > the presence of a hypothetical fluid he is said to be surrounded by,
> > > > > > called "water."
>
> > > > > > With the help of a friendly octopus (eight hands, you know), he
> > > > > > constructs a tow object of variable cross section.  The experiment
> > > > > > consists in towing the object when set at various sizes to see if the
> > > > > > towing force required for movement at a fixed speed is constant or
> > > > > > depends on its cross section.
>
> > > > > > If constant, no water.  If greater at greater size, water.
>
> > > > > > That is the frictional case.  For the frictionless case, he uses
> > > > > > acceleration instead of speed.
>
> > > > > > Uncle Ben
>
> > > > > There is such an experiment which is often performed which is evidence
> > > > > of the existence of dark matter.
>
> > > > > It's called a double slit experiment.
>
> > > > > In a double slit experiment the moving particle has an associated dark
> > > > > matter displacement wave. The displacement wave enters and exits
> > > > > multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits
> > > > > altering the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
> > > > > causes decoherence of the associated displacement wave and there is no
> > > > > interference.
>
> > > > > Why don't you just answer the following question?
>
> > > > > It's because you know what the answer is.
>
> > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > know the vacuum does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > > You don't.
>
> > > > > The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment is evidence of the
> > > > > existence of dark matter.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > If dark matter is displaced by familiar objects, then it should be
> > > > able to be pumped out by vacuum pumps or compressed by compressors.
> > > > We  should know its compressibility. It should not take the subtlety
> > > > of diffraction experiments to detect it.
>
> > > Maxwell's Displacement Current is displacement of dark matter.
>
> > > A gravity wave is a dark matter wave.
>
> > > > But I don't want to spoil your dream with rude reality.
>
> > > > Carry on!
>
> > > How do you know a vacuum does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > You don't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I rely on your characterization of dark matter:  It can be displaced
> > by massive objects.
>
> > One such massive object could be the piston of a pump in a cylinder.
> > When at top-dead-center, there is no room in the cylinder for dark
> > matter. With the valves closed, no dark matter can get in.  Then the
> > piston is withdrawn, leaving a vacuum -- no dark matter.
>
> > Uncle Ben
>
> > ps: No charge.
>
> You do realize there exists three dimensional space between the nuclei
> of atoms which make up matter, correct?
>
> Of course dark matter gets in. The three dimensional space between the
> nuclei which make up your cylinder is analogous to leaving the windows
> open.
>
> Mass exists throughout three dimensional space.
>
> A vacuum consists of dark matter.

Evidence of the dark matter is observed in double slit experiments.
The moving particle has an associated dark matter wave. The particle
enters and exits a single slit and the wave enters and exits multiple
slits. The wave creates interference upon exiting the slits and
creates interference which alters the direction the particle travels.
Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated wave (i.e.
turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.
From: Uncle Ben on
On Jul 7, 6:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 11:04 am, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 11:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 6, 11:15 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 6, 9:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 6, 8:40 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:04 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 2:21 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement
> > > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the
> > > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters
> > > > > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave
> > > > > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the
> > > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence
> > > > > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into
> > > > > > > > > > > chop) and
> > > > > > > > > > > there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > > slit experiment?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit.
>
> > > > > > > > > > What happened to Aether Displacement?
>
> > > > > > > > > Dark matter, dark energy, dark flow, dark fluid are all attempts at
> > > > > > > > > describing the state of the aether. For those who insist aether must
> > > > > > > > > be massless, dark matter is not massless. Dark matter and aether are
> > > > > > > > > one in the same. There are no empty voids in space. All of three
> > > > > > > > > dimensional space consists of mass. Whether it be dark matter and
> > > > > > > > > matter, or aether and matter. It is obvious you are incapable of
> > > > > > > > > understanding the physics of nature as you will undoubtedly not be
> > > > > > > > > able to answer the final question in this post.
>
> > > > > > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> > > > > > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > > > > > > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
>
> > > > > > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > > > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > > > > > > > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > > The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > > > > > matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the
> > > > > > > > > dark matter's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement
> > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the
> > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters
> > > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave
> > > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the
> > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence
> > > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into
> > > > > > > > > chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > slit experiment?
>
> > > > > > > > > Because the particle always exits a single slit.
>
> > > > > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > > > > know the vacuum is a void and does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > > > > > > You don't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > > I bow in wonder at your confident Gnosticism!
>
> > > > > > > Why don't you just answer the question?
>
> > > > > > > It can't be because you can't, now can it?
>
> > > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > > know the vacuum is a void and does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > > > > The correct answer is, you can't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > I might do an experiment that an intelligent fish might do to detect
> > > > > > the presence of a hypothetical fluid he is said to be surrounded by,
> > > > > > called "water."
>
> > > > > > With the help of a friendly octopus (eight hands, you know), he
> > > > > > constructs a tow object of variable cross section.  The experiment
> > > > > > consists in towing the object when set at various sizes to see if the
> > > > > > towing force required for movement at a fixed speed is constant or
> > > > > > depends on its cross section.
>
> > > > > > If constant, no water.  If greater at greater size, water.
>
> > > > > > That is the frictional case.  For the frictionless case, he uses
> > > > > > acceleration instead of speed.
>
> > > > > > Uncle Ben
>
> > > > > There is such an experiment which is often performed which is evidence
> > > > > of the existence of dark matter.
>
> > > > > It's called a double slit experiment.
>
> > > > > In a double slit experiment the moving particle has an associated dark
> > > > > matter displacement wave. The displacement wave enters and exits
> > > > > multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits
> > > > > altering the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
> > > > > causes decoherence of the associated displacement wave and there is no
> > > > > interference.
>
> > > > > Why don't you just answer the following question?
>
> > > > > It's because you know what the answer is.
>
> > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > know the vacuum does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > > > You don't.
>
> > > > > The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment is evidence of the
> > > > > existence of dark matter.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > If dark matter is displaced by familiar objects, then it should be
> > > > able to be pumped out by vacuum pumps or compressed by compressors.
> > > > We  should know its compressibility. It should not take the subtlety
> > > > of diffraction experiments to detect it.
>
> > > Maxwell's Displacement Current is displacement of dark matter.
>
> > > A gravity wave is a dark matter wave.
>
> > > > But I don't want to spoil your dream with rude reality.
>
> > > > Carry on!
>
> > > How do you know a vacuum does not consist of dark matter?
>
> > > You don't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I rely on your characterization of dark matter:  It can be displaced
> > by massive objects.
>
> > One such massive object could be the piston of a pump in a cylinder.
> > When at top-dead-center, there is no room in the cylinder for dark
> > matter. With the valves closed, no dark matter can get in.  Then the
> > piston is withdrawn, leaving a vacuum -- no dark matter.
>
> > Uncle Ben
>
> > ps: No charge.
>
> You do realize there exists three dimensional space between the nuclei
> of atoms which make up matter, correct?
>
> Of course dark matter gets in. The three dimensional space between the
> nuclei which make up your cylinder is analogous to leaving the windows
> open.
>
> Mass exists throughout three dimensional space.
>
> A vacuum consists of dark matter.- Hide quoted text -
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Well, if dark matter can penetrate the inter-atomic spaces in solids,
why must it be displaced so as to exert force on these solids? What
becomes of your theory of gravity? Why doesn't gravity decrease with
time as displaced dark matter oozes through bricks until they can
float away?

Enquiring minds want to know.
From: Androcles on

"Uncle Ben" <ben(a)greenba.com> wrote in message
news:49bdfcc0-406c-4c76-898d-d2f24291d8d7(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
Well, if dark matter can penetrate the inter-atomic spaces in solids,
why must it be displaced so as to exert force on these solids? What
becomes of your theory of gravity? Why doesn't gravity decrease with
time as displaced dark matter oozes through bricks until they can
float away?

Enquiring minds want to know.
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I agree with Bonehead.
What I'd like to know is the relativistic theory of gravity.
Since in classical theory F = ma and a = dv/dt and v = dx/dt,
and in relativistic theory upsilon = dxi/dtau, and
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img155.gif
what is the relativistic force PHI?



From: mpc755 on
On Jul 7, 7:10 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 6:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
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> > On Jul 7, 11:04 am, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 6, 11:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 6, 11:15 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 6, 9:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:40 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 8:04 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 6, 2:21 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 5, 3:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement
> > > > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters
> > > > > > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave
> > > > > > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the
> > > > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence
> > > > > > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into
> > > > > > > > > > > > chop) and
> > > > > > > > > > > > there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > > > slit experiment?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > What happened to Aether Displacement?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Dark matter, dark energy, dark flow, dark fluid are all attempts at
> > > > > > > > > > describing the state of the aether. For those who insist aether must
> > > > > > > > > > be massless, dark matter is not massless. Dark matter and aether are
> > > > > > > > > > one in the same. There are no empty voids in space. All of three
> > > > > > > > > > dimensional space consists of mass. Whether it be dark matter and
> > > > > > > > > > matter, or aether and matter. It is obvious you are incapable of
> > > > > > > > > > understanding the physics of nature as you will undoubtedly not be
> > > > > > > > > > able to answer the final question in this post.
>
> > > > > > > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html
>
> > > > > > > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > > > > > > > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".
>
> > > > > > > > > > The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > > > > > > matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
> > > > > > > > > > aether's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the
> > > > > > > > > > matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the
> > > > > > > > > > dark matter's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule displaces dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated dark matter displacement
> > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the
> > > > > > > > > > wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > slit experiment. The associated dark matter displacement wave enters
> > > > > > > > > > and exits the available slits. When the dark matter displacement wave
> > > > > > > > > > exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the
> > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence
> > > > > > > > > > of the associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns it into
> > > > > > > > > > chop) and there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double
> > > > > > > > > > slit experiment?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Because the particle always exits a single slit.
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> > > > > > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > > > > > know the vacuum is a void and does not consist of dark matter?
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> > > > > > > > > > You don't.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > > > I bow in wonder at your confident Gnosticism!
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> > > > > > > > Why don't you just answer the question?
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> > > > > > > > It can't be because you can't, now can it?
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> > > > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > > > know the vacuum is a void and does not consist of dark matter?
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> > > > > > > > The correct answer is, you can't.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > I might do an experiment that an intelligent fish might do to detect
> > > > > > > the presence of a hypothetical fluid he is said to be surrounded by,
> > > > > > > called "water."
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> > > > > > > With the help of a friendly octopus (eight hands, you know), he
> > > > > > > constructs a tow object of variable cross section.  The experiment
> > > > > > > consists in towing the object when set at various sizes to see if the
> > > > > > > towing force required for movement at a fixed speed is constant or
> > > > > > > depends on its cross section.
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> > > > > > > If constant, no water.  If greater at greater size, water.
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> > > > > > > That is the frictional case.  For the frictionless case, he uses
> > > > > > > acceleration instead of speed.
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> > > > > > > Uncle Ben
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> > > > > > There is such an experiment which is often performed which is evidence
> > > > > > of the existence of dark matter.
>
> > > > > > It's called a double slit experiment.
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> > > > > > In a double slit experiment the moving particle has an associated dark
> > > > > > matter displacement wave. The displacement wave enters and exits
> > > > > > multiple slits and creates interference upon exiting the slits
> > > > > > altering the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
> > > > > > causes decoherence of the associated displacement wave and there is no
> > > > > > interference.
>
> > > > > > Why don't you just answer the following question?
>
> > > > > > It's because you know what the answer is.
>
> > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed in a vacuum, how do you
> > > > > > know the vacuum does not consist of dark matter?
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> > > > > > You don't.
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> > > > > > The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment is evidence of the
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> > > > > If dark matter is displaced by familiar objects, then it should be
> > > > > able to be pumped out by vacuum pumps or compressed by compressors.
> > > > > We  should know its compressibility. It should not take the subtlety
> > > > > of diffraction experiments to detect it.
>
> > > > Maxwell's Displacement Current is displacement of dark matter.
>
> > > > A gravity wave is a dark matter wave.
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> > > > > But I don't want to spoil your dream with rude reality.
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> > > > > Carry on!
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> > > > How do you know a vacuum does not consist of dark matter?
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> > > I rely on your characterization of dark matter:  It can be displaced
> > > by massive objects.
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> > > One such massive object could be the piston of a pump in a cylinder.
> > > When at top-dead-center, there is no room in the cylinder for dark
> > > matter. With the valves closed, no dark matter can get in.  Then the
> > > piston is withdrawn, leaving a vacuum -- no dark matter.
>
> > > Uncle Ben
>
> > > ps: No charge.
>
> > You do realize there exists three dimensional space between the nuclei
> > of atoms which make up matter, correct?
>
> > Of course dark matter gets in. The three dimensional space between the
> > nuclei which make up your cylinder is analogous to leaving the windows
> > open.
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> > Mass exists throughout three dimensional space.
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>  Well, if dark matter can penetrate the inter-atomic spaces in solids,
> why must it be displaced so as to exert force on these solids?  What
> becomes of your theory of gravity? Why doesn't gravity decrease with
> time as displaced dark matter oozes through bricks until they can
> float away?
>
> Enquiring minds want to know.

You do understand if the windows in your home are open and you throw a
bucket of water at the house the water will go through the open
windows and not go through the walls, correct?

And if you place your home into the ocean water penetrates through the
open windows but does not penetrate the walls, correct?

You do understand the matter which is your home displaces the water,
correct?

The matter (i.e. the nuclei) which is the brick displaces the dark
matter. Dark matter exists in the spaces between the nuclei. The
displaced dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces
back'. The 'displacing back' is the pressure exerted by the displaced
dark matter towards the matter.

Dark matter is displaced based on mass per volume. The more matter
(i.e. nuclei) which exists per volume the less dark matter the matter
contains the more dark matter the matter displaces. The more dark
matter displaced the more dark matter 'displaces back'. The more dark
matter displaced, the greater the pressure exerted by the displaced
dark matter towards the matter.

The more massive an object is per volume, the less dark matter it
contains, the more dark matter it displaces, the greater the pressure
exerted by the displaced dark matter towards the object, the greater
the gravity associated with the object.