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From: Gwynne Harper on 29 Jun 2010 06:54
J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> A Seagate of course.
> But they are all very quiet nowadays.

Presumably because the platters have seized solid.


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From: Jon B on 29 Jun 2010 07:48
Arthur <arthursstuffforsale(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 28/06/2010 20:51, Peter Ceresole wrote:
> > I'm soon getting (really!) a new iMac. For the first time, I think I
> > will use Time Machine, so I need a decent sized external HD, to back up
> > both Anne's MBP and my new iMac.
>
> My iMac is using a 1.5TB samsung storystation USB drive which is quiet
> and seems good value. I recently moved the disk in it to a lacie FW800
> enclosure I had spare but the samsung USB enclosure is at least as good
> as the others I've come accross.
>
I'm using the 1GB version of the above in it's original case. Runs nice
& quiet.
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From: Mark on 29 Jun 2010 09:25
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:51:14 +0100, Peter Ceresole wrote
(in article <1jktdru.mlr299vaoy6wN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>):

> I'm soon getting (really!) a new iMac. For the first time, I think I
> will use Time Machine, so I need a decent sized external HD, to back up
> both Anne's MBP and my new iMac.
>
> I'll make it Firewire 800 (I think).
>
> Any recommendations?
>
Just browsing <http://www.hotukdeals.com> and saw a Western Digital Elements
2 TB External Desktop Hard Drive (USB 2.0) noted on offer via Amazon for �95
<http://amzn.to/bzHyml>. Being on that site I assume it must be a cheap(er)
deal. Dunno if they're liked/etc though!

Mark

From: Rowland McDonnell on 29 Jun 2010 13:10
J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Ceresole) wrote:
> > >
> > > >I'm soon getting (really!) a new iMac.
> > >
> > > Note that the iMacs are well due for an update, which will doubtless
> > > happen the Tuesday after you buy yours. This may not bother you.
> > >
> > > >For the first time, I think I
> > > >will use Time Machine, so I need a decent sized external HD, to back up
> > > >both Anne's MBP and my new iMac.
> > > >
> > > >I'll make it Firewire 800 (I think).
> > >
> > > As the others have said, make it USB - lots cheaper, lots more choice,
> > > no need for FW800 speeds.
> >
> > Plain FW beats USB2.
> >
> > I've got FW, USB 2, and FW800 for my external discs.
> >
> > Backing up over FW800 is just about tolerable.
> >
> > The other two are too slow for my liking, given the amount of data
> > that's around these days.
>
> You never sleep?

<puzzled> You what?

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From: John on 29 Jun 2010 14:30
In article <1jkufs6.zj26cf1glb7pcN(a)de-ster.xs4all.nl>, J. J. Lodder
<nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> Chris Holland <ilove(a)macs.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:59:51 +0100, Peter Ceresole wrote:
> >
> > > J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Nowadays 2 TB are cheapest/GB
> > >> Don't worry, it will fill up.
> > >
> > > I have no doubt whatsoever that that's true.
> >
> > I didn't find it that way, unless you keep every bit of rubbish that comes
> > your way. If you do, it only makes finding useful stuff more difficult, so
> > it always pays to be somewhat selective in what you keep.
> >
> > >
> > >> For just Time Machine (and nothing else)
> > >> there is little point in having firewire.
> > >> USB will do.
> > >
> > > Yes, I've been told this. So I guess USB will be it.
> >
> > Definitely USB. You can pop it in your shirt pocket and no power supply to
> > lug around. It's a bit slower, but you're doing backups. So what if it
> > takes a bit longer?
>
> Wrong in every respect.
> For portable drives it does pay to have firewire.
> The USB bus can't power all drives.
> For some you need two USB ports to get enough power out.
> The firewire bus otoh will happily feed any portable drive.
>
> Moreover, bus feed limits you to 500 GB at present
> which is smallish given the TB or more
> that will be built into P's next iMac.
>
> The latest 5400 rpm USB drives of up to 2 GB
> have nice small power bricks/adapters.
>
> For P: look at the Verbatim ones.
> Their power adapter comes with two easy clip-on adapters,
> for euro and somethin which may be the silly UK thing,

I've got to chip in with my own experiences.

I've tried using a USB connected Western Digital HD for my Time Machine
drive and it was nothing but trouble with the thing hanging part-way
through back-ups. I checked the drive and reformatted but it made no
difference and it kept choking. I bought another WD drive with FW800
and it's been fine. The USB drive is now connected to my WD Live TV and
works fine for films.

Of course YMMV

John
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