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From: shrink4g on 25 May 2010 11:02
On 5/24/2010 7:35 PM, Bob Villa wrote:
>> Also, the free version is "no" difference then the
> pay version...
>
> In the English speaking countries..."no different than..."

Thank you for checking on the grammar, in this case the spelling!
From: Ian Jackson on 25 May 2010 11:35
In message
<2f140750-6bc0-46ad-9d7b-8cdb3a75d99f(a)a16g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
"baynole2(a)yahoo.com" <baynole(a)gmail.com> writes
>On May 24, 8:35 pm, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Also, the free version is "no" difference then the
>>
>> pay version...
>>
>> In the English speaking countries..."no different than..."
>
>In the United States, "no different from."

In British English, it's "different from" - although there are those who
maintain that it is "different to" (or, at least, it is equally
acceptable). [The converse is, of course, "similar to".]
--
Ian
From: shrink4g on 25 May 2010 11:36
On 5/24/2010 4:49 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> shrink4g wrote:
>
>> Having been using Smart Defrag for awhile and I am about to switch gear
>> due to the upgrade to 64bit Window7. I found 2 that are supporting the
>> 64bit native, but have no experience (how well they work) using them.
>> Between Mydefrag and Defraggler, which would you recommend? Thanks.
>
> A side note:
>
> Be careful of how often or when you defragment if you are performing
> regular *image* backups of your host. Many image backup programs can
> save either full or incremental image backups. However, if you go
> moving sectors around with a defrag then it is likely a scheduled
> incremental image backup will result in performing instead a full image
> backup and you consume more of the backup media's space than you had
> intended.
>
> If you scheduled image backups of your host, also schedule the defrag to
> occur before you schedule a full image backup and not on any other day
> when you schedule an incremental image backup.
>
> http://kb.acronis.com/content/2712

My habit is to defrag/optimize before an image backup (I never do a
sector backup), and then of course incremental backup after a full bkup.

In responding to my query...well guys,
I am overwhelming with the information provided from all. I have much of
reading to do and try-out before I pick the most favorable one. There
are couples of links that show the review of most defraggers from some
posters in here. With not so much spare time, I may have to read through
the review and choose one. Thanks for showing me the way.



From: VanguardLH on 25 May 2010 14:07
shrink4g wrote:

> On 5/24/2010 4:49 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
>> shrink4g wrote:
>>
>>> Having been using Smart Defrag for awhile and I am about to switch gear
>>> due to the upgrade to 64bit Window7. I found 2 that are supporting the
>>> 64bit native, but have no experience (how well they work) using them.
>>> Between Mydefrag and Defraggler, which would you recommend? Thanks.
>>
>> A side note:
>>
>> Be careful of how often or when you defragment if you are performing
>> regular *image* backups of your host. Many image backup programs can
>> save either full or incremental image backups. However, if you go
>> moving sectors around with a defrag then it is likely a scheduled
>> incremental image backup will result in performing instead a full image
>> backup and you consume more of the backup media's space than you had
>> intended.
>>
>> If you scheduled image backups of your host, also schedule the defrag to
>> occur before you schedule a full image backup and not on any other day
>> when you schedule an incremental image backup.
>>
>> http://kb.acronis.com/content/2712
>
> My habit is to defrag/optimize before an image backup (I never do a
> sector backup), and then of course incremental backup after a full bkup.

There would be no point in running an incremental image backup right
after a full image backup. You would run a full image backup one day
and an incremental image backup another day; e.g., on Monday morning's
you do a full image backup and on all other mornings you do an
incremental image backup, with the occasional manually instigated image
backup before you do something drastic to your host.

If you do a defrag anytime after a full image backup but before an
incremental image backup, nothing of your files have changed but their
position has been moved by the defrag. You end up backup up more in
your incremental image backup than you have to. So in the above example
scenario, you would schedule a defrag on the Monday morning you would be
doing the full image backup (but have to ensure the defrag started well
ahead of the backup to ensure the defrag was completed by the time the
full image backup started).

Running a defrag every week (like on Monday well ahead of when you
scheduled a full image backup) is a bit extreme as you won't get enough
of a change to effect any speedup of you host; however, that also means
you have less fragmenting to overcome so the defrag will be much shorter
to complete. You probably only need to defrag after several months and
about twice per year is about when there would be enough change to let
you sense any significant effect. Doing weekly defrags is like you
weekly checking your tire pressure: you effect very little change each
time. Preventative maintenance often ends up wasting as much or more
time than catastrophic maintenance but you are trying to prevent the
nuisance of the catastrophe. A bunch of separate little pains versus
one big pain.
From: Franklin on 26 May 2010 09:41
Ian Jackson wrote:

> In message
> <2f140750-6bc0-46ad-9d7b-8cdb3a75d99f(a)a16g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
> "baynole2(a)yahoo.com" <baynole(a)gmail.com> writes
>>On May 24, 8:35 pm, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Also, the free version is "no" difference then the
>>>
>>> pay version...
>>>
>>> In the English speaking countries..."no different than..."
>>
>>In the United States, "no different from."
>
> In British English, it's "different from" - although there are those who
> maintain that it is "different to" (or, at least, it is equally
> acceptable). [The converse is, of course, "similar to".]

Sinagaporean English adds "lah" to that.
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