From: ajay on 9 Oct 2009 02:45 On Oct 9, 9:49 am, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Oct 8, 7:43 pm, Robert Higgins <robert_higgins...(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > YOU ARE WRONG. Among other things, you claim to observe the law of > > conservation of momentum, but then you claim that the recoil of an > > atom that emits a photon is very small. > > Precisely. The same thing that was shown here: > > http://www.conceptsofphysics.net/V_3/549.pdf -----
From: ajay on 9 Oct 2009 02:53 On Oct 9, 10:04 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > Dono. wrote: > > On Oct 8, 7:43 pm, Robert Higgins <robert_higgins...(a)hotmail.com> > > wrote: > >> YOU ARE WRONG. Among other things, you claim to observe the law of > >> conservation of momentum, but then you claim that the recoil of an > >> atom that emits a photon is very small. > > > Precisely. The same thing that was shown here: > > >http://www.conceptsofphysics.net/V_3/549.pdf > > <smiling> ---------- Addressed to DONO Einstein's Sep 1905 derivation A. Einstein, Annalen. der Physik 17, 891-921 (1905). http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/ is also meant for body of any mass. Ajay Sharma www.AjayOnLine.us
From: Inertial on 9 Oct 2009 18:21 "ajay" <ajayonline.us(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:936ff3d9-9b38-4967-b97c-7924622d79da(a)f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 9, 8:09 am, bz <bz+...(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote: >> On 06 Oct 2009, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote news:00554f5a$0 >> $26943$c3e8...(a)news.astraweb.com in sci.physics.relativity: >> >> Most of my comments are addressed to AJAY, rather than Inertial. >> >> >> Dr Drake and devised two equations hf* = Mc2 + hf/A and >> >> hf* =Mc2 + hf >> >> where h is Planck's constant , f* and f are frequencies , M is mass >> >> of hydrogen >> >> atom in ground state , c is speed of light. Then Dr Drake has >> >> subtracted equations as >> >> >> hf* = Mc2 + hf/A (1) >> >> hf* =Mc2 + hf (2) >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Difference = hf/A - hf = hf (1/A-1) >> >> He SHOULD have written this as >> >> DELTA hf* = hf (1/A-1) >> Where DELTA indicates 'change in', and is commonly so used in calculus. >> >> Your failure to understand this indicates the fact that you failed to >> understand that >> hf* sub 1 =/= hf* sub 2, so DELTA hf* is NOT zero. >> >> the hf* in equation (1) is NOT equal to the hf* in equation (2). >> >> Your failure to understand this is made clear when you said: >> >> >> >> >> Correct version is >> >> hf* = Mc2 + hf/A >> >> hf* = Mc2 + hf >> >> --------------------------- >> >> 0 = hf/A - hf = hf (1/A-1) or A =1 (4) >> >> You should study the importance of finite differences. They are >> fundamental >> to taking derivatives in >> calculus.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_difference. >> >> In Drake's case, the difference is NOT a small difference, as one would >> find in calculus, it is the difference between different energy states. >> >> One comment to Inertial: going ballistic and using terms that would not >> be >> used in polite society is rude (remember your grandchildren may someday >> read what you post now, or a prospective boss may read them) and does >> nothing to improve your credibility. I applaud your attempts to educate >> but >> deplore some of the things you have said in some of your articles. There >> is >> no excuse for some of the things that some people say here. >> >> -- >> bz >> >> please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is >> an >> infinite set. > > ------- > ------ > Addressed to BZ > > You gave written > hf* = Mc2 + hf/A (1) > hf* =Mc2 + hf (2) Of course, what Drake said was (as a formula) hf* =Mc2 + hf + Energy Difference (2) I didnt' see in any of Drakes correspondence that you presented in that PDF where he gave a particular formula. Only your interpretation of what he said And that for energy difference to be zero, A must be 1. So your claim that A can be other than 1 is wrong. Your theory therefore would break laws of physics Get a new hobby.
From: Inertial on 9 Oct 2009 18:43 "ajay" <ajayonline.us(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:176ef3a3-aa3d-4389-bea1-5f8ade29ed94(a)m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 8, 1:30 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "ajay" <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:fc4432d8-8213-41ac-8a5f-c3b23e987b75(a)b18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Oct 8, 7:38 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> "ajay" <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:1a6b5bb8-0f2a-434a-ab5d-f0fbc41a117b(a)r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > On Oct 7, 10:23 pm, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> On Oct 7, 8:32 am, ajay <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > Listen, wackjob. A=1, so all of your "papers" contain the same >> >> >> > > mistake. >> >> >> > > Drake showed you that A=1, I showed you that A=1 through a >> >> >> > > different >> >> >> > > way.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> > i) THE MAIN THEME HERE IS , Dr Gordon W.F. Drake has done 8th >> >> >> > class >> >> >> > math wrong. >> >> >> >> Listen, wackjob, dr. Drake has shown you that A=1. I have shown you >> >> >> through a different method that A=1. >> >> >> Einstein is right, all your papers are wrong. >> >> >> > --------- >> >> > DONO >> >> >> > See that I pasted HOW Dr Drake simply did 8th class math wrong in >> >> > previous post. >> >> > comment on it. >> >> >> His math is fine. You just can't understand 8th class math.- Hide >> >> quoted >> >> text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > ----- >> > INERTIAL >> >> > See my previous post. >> >> I've seen enough of them >> >> > Dr Drake has done 8th class math wrong. >> >> No .. you just haven't understood it .. big difference >> >> > Dr Gordon W.F. Drake: p...(a)aps.org, 001-631-591-4000 to clarify >> >> I have no need to talk to him, the correspondence from him to you was >> very >> clear >> >> > AJAY SHARMA www.AjayOnLine.us >> >> You should choose a new career .. Physics and writing are not for you.- >> Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > --------- > INERTIAL > > There is established rule in schools to teach students the subtraction > of algebraic equations. > (i) LHS is subtracted from LHS > (ii) RHS is subtracted from RHS > > Dr Gordon W.F. Drake, Editor Physical Review, American Physical > Society, New York > Has not followed this rule. > Now he is silent it will never prove him correct. I have shown you you error already The formula you wrote down as your interpretation of what Drake said in his letter (from your 40-odd-page pdf record of your correspondence) is incorrect. The problem is yours, not his. Your continual whinging about it just makes you look more foolish.
From: Inertial on 9 Oct 2009 18:43
"ajay" <ajayonline.us(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:d4de4db9-a374-4bd2-ba2e-7ad19726e9c0(a)j39g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... > Dr Gordon W.F. Drake, Editor Physical Review, American Physical > Society , New Yok: pra(a)aps.org, 001-631-591-4000, > Should explain why he did 8th class math wrong. He didn't. You didn't write the correct equatinos. |