Electron and proton attraction by opposite charge
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From: BURT on 5 May 2010 13:55 On May 5, 3:47 am, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > On May 4, 10:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > > can you say they attract one another? > > Learn some real physics and find out. But they don't come together under their supposed attraction. They have to be forced. Please show me where I am wrong. Where is this physics real if it doesn't even happen? Mitch Raemsch
From: xxein on 5 May 2010 18:44 On May 4, 10:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > can you say they attract one another? > > Mitch Raemsch xxein: Why can we orbit satellites and not have them all crashing to Earth? Your homework is to find this physical difference. I like to teach 3rd graders.
From: BURT on 5 May 2010 22:31 On May 5, 3:44 pm, xxein <xx...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On May 4, 10:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > > can you say they attract one another? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > xxein: Why can we orbit satellites and not have them all crashing to > Earth? > > Your homework is to find this physical difference. > > I like to teach 3rd graders. If protons and electrons attract why do they never come together without force? Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on 6 May 2010 10:57 On May 4, 9:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > can you say they attract one another? > > Mitch Raemsch No, it does NOT mean that electrons and protons ought to come together because of it. The reason is angular momentum. The simple test you can do in the town library where you make your posts is to swing a pail of water in a vertical circle. You'll note that if you swing fast enough, the water does not fall out of the pail onto your head, even when the pail is overhead and gravity is pulling the water downward. Note that gravity and the pressure from the sides and bottom of the pail are the only forces acting on the water. So, once you figure out why gravity doesn't make the water fall out of the pail onto your head when you do this, you'll understand perhaps why the moon doesn't fall into the earth, why the earth doesn't fall into the sun, and why the electron doesn't fall into the proton.
From: PD on 6 May 2010 10:58
On May 5, 10:02 am, john <vega...(a)accesscomm.ca> wrote: > On May 4, 8:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > > can you say they attract one another? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > The electron and proton, given enough time How much time, John? Hydrogen atoms have been around for an awfully long time. > and no energy input, will recombine > into the virtual pair they once were. > > When the black hole came along, however it was > produced, all the virtual pairs within its influence > were given extreme spin. > > Since the two opposite charges, clinging > together by their attraction to each other, > are given the same extreme spin, they repel > each other by their magnetism, and, absorbing > a neutrino, they become oppositely-charged > high-energy particles and are shot out the > jets of the black hole. > > Eventually, by the attraction of their electric charge, they > come together as suns. > > The HEPs at the suns' centers are fused > into atoms, with the electron being > brought into the proton's sphere and > neutrinos and energy are given off. > > The neutrinos are everywhere stars are and > are constantly being absorbed by galactic > centers as infalling matter is spun back into HEPs > and ejected out the jets. Absorption of these > neutrinos causes galaxies to push on each other. > This is the gravity that affects galaxies. > > The gravity affecting (not effecting!!!) matter comes from this > same process taking place within electrons > and protons. > > john |