Electron and proton attraction by opposite charge
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From: PD on 6 May 2010 15:56 On May 6, 2:29 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 6, 12:00 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 1:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 11:42 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 1:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 7:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 4, 9:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > > > > > > > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > > > > > > > can you say they attract one another? > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > No, it does NOT mean that electrons and protons ought to come together > > > > > > because of it. > > > > > > No that makes no sense that they are attractive but they don't come > > > > > together without force. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > The reason is angular momentum. > > > > > > The simple test you can do in the town library where you make your > > > > > > posts is to swing a pail of water in a vertical circle. You'll note > > > > > > that if you swing fast enough, the water does not fall out of the pail > > > > > > onto your head, even when the pail is overhead and gravity is pulling > > > > > > the water downward. Note that gravity and the pressure from the sides > > > > > > and bottom of the pail are the only forces acting on the water. > > > > > > So, once you figure out why gravity doesn't make the water fall out of > > > > > > the pail onto your head when you do this, you'll understand perhaps > > > > > > why the moon doesn't fall into the earth, why the earth doesn't fall > > > > > > into the sun, and why the electron doesn't fall into the proton.. > > > > > > Can youi please show how attraction doesn't bring them together? > > > > > Lets be sensible. > > > > > There's nothing like seeing things with your own eyes. This is why I > > > > suggested the pail of water trick, which you can actually do. > > > > > Then try to tell yourself what you're seeing doesn't make sense. > > > > > If it actually happens, it has to make sense. It's just that you > > > > haven't figured out how to make sense of it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > If an electron and a proton have to be forced together it makes no > > > sense that they are attractive. > > > Who says they have to be forced together? > > Neutronium says they have to be forced together. > > Mitch Raemsch Are you talking about a wiki article?
From: BURT on 6 May 2010 17:38 On May 6, 12:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 6, 2:29 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:00 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 1:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 11:42 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 1:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 7:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 4, 9:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > > > > > > > > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > > > > > > > > can you say they attract one another? > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > No, it does NOT mean that electrons and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > because of it. > > > > > > > No that makes no sense that they are attractive but they don't come > > > > > > together without force. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > The reason is angular momentum. > > > > > > > The simple test you can do in the town library where you make your > > > > > > > posts is to swing a pail of water in a vertical circle. You'll note > > > > > > > that if you swing fast enough, the water does not fall out of the pail > > > > > > > onto your head, even when the pail is overhead and gravity is pulling > > > > > > > the water downward. Note that gravity and the pressure from the sides > > > > > > > and bottom of the pail are the only forces acting on the water. > > > > > > > So, once you figure out why gravity doesn't make the water fall out of > > > > > > > the pail onto your head when you do this, you'll understand perhaps > > > > > > > why the moon doesn't fall into the earth, why the earth doesn't fall > > > > > > > into the sun, and why the electron doesn't fall into the proton. > > > > > > > Can youi please show how attraction doesn't bring them together? > > > > > > Lets be sensible. > > > > > > There's nothing like seeing things with your own eyes. This is why I > > > > > suggested the pail of water trick, which you can actually do. > > > > > > Then try to tell yourself what you're seeing doesn't make sense. > > > > > > If it actually happens, it has to make sense. It's just that you > > > > > haven't figured out how to make sense of it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > If an electron and a proton have to be forced together it makes no > > > > sense that they are attractive. > > > > Who says they have to be forced together? > > > Neutronium says they have to be forced together. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Are you talking about a wiki article?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Wackypedia thinks that science has a explanation to a rainbow when it is all made up. That phenomenon doesn't yield to science. How can raindrops hang in a circular arc without falling? Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on 6 May 2010 17:57 On May 6, 4:38 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 6, 12:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 2:29 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 12:00 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 1:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 11:42 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 1:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 6, 7:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 9:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > > > > > > > > > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > > > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > > > > > > > > > can you say they attract one another? > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > No, it does NOT mean that electrons and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > > because of it. > > > > > > > > No that makes no sense that they are attractive but they don't come > > > > > > > together without force. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > The reason is angular momentum. > > > > > > > > The simple test you can do in the town library where you make your > > > > > > > > posts is to swing a pail of water in a vertical circle. You'll note > > > > > > > > that if you swing fast enough, the water does not fall out of the pail > > > > > > > > onto your head, even when the pail is overhead and gravity is pulling > > > > > > > > the water downward. Note that gravity and the pressure from the sides > > > > > > > > and bottom of the pail are the only forces acting on the water. > > > > > > > > So, once you figure out why gravity doesn't make the water fall out of > > > > > > > > the pail onto your head when you do this, you'll understand perhaps > > > > > > > > why the moon doesn't fall into the earth, why the earth doesn't fall > > > > > > > > into the sun, and why the electron doesn't fall into the proton. > > > > > > > > Can youi please show how attraction doesn't bring them together? > > > > > > > Lets be sensible. > > > > > > > There's nothing like seeing things with your own eyes. This is why I > > > > > > suggested the pail of water trick, which you can actually do. > > > > > > > Then try to tell yourself what you're seeing doesn't make sense.. > > > > > > > If it actually happens, it has to make sense. It's just that you > > > > > > haven't figured out how to make sense of it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > If an electron and a proton have to be forced together it makes no > > > > > sense that they are attractive. > > > > > Who says they have to be forced together? > > > > Neutronium says they have to be forced together. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Are you talking about a wiki article?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Wackypedia thinks that science has a explanation to a rainbow when it > is all made up. That phenomenon doesn't yield to science. > > How can raindrops hang in a circular arc without falling? Oh dear. Mitch, do you really believe this is what's claimed? > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: BURT on 6 May 2010 18:45 On May 6, 2:57 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 6, 4:38 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 2:29 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 12:00 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 1:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 11:42 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 6, 1:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 7:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 9:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > > > > > > > > > > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > > > > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > > > > > > > > > > can you say they attract one another? > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > No, it does NOT mean that electrons and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > > > because of it. > > > > > > > > > No that makes no sense that they are attractive but they don't come > > > > > > > > together without force. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > The reason is angular momentum. > > > > > > > > > The simple test you can do in the town library where you make your > > > > > > > > > posts is to swing a pail of water in a vertical circle. You'll note > > > > > > > > > that if you swing fast enough, the water does not fall out of the pail > > > > > > > > > onto your head, even when the pail is overhead and gravity is pulling > > > > > > > > > the water downward. Note that gravity and the pressure from the sides > > > > > > > > > and bottom of the pail are the only forces acting on the water. > > > > > > > > > So, once you figure out why gravity doesn't make the water fall out of > > > > > > > > > the pail onto your head when you do this, you'll understand perhaps > > > > > > > > > why the moon doesn't fall into the earth, why the earth doesn't fall > > > > > > > > > into the sun, and why the electron doesn't fall into the proton. > > > > > > > > > Can youi please show how attraction doesn't bring them together? > > > > > > > > Lets be sensible. > > > > > > > > There's nothing like seeing things with your own eyes. This is why I > > > > > > > suggested the pail of water trick, which you can actually do. > > > > > > > > Then try to tell yourself what you're seeing doesn't make sense. > > > > > > > > If it actually happens, it has to make sense. It's just that you > > > > > > > haven't figured out how to make sense of it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > If an electron and a proton have to be forced together it makes no > > > > > > sense that they are attractive. > > > > > > Who says they have to be forced together? > > > > > Neutronium says they have to be forced together. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Are you talking about a wiki article?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Wackypedia thinks that science has a explanation to a rainbow when it > > is all made up. That phenomenon doesn't yield to science. > > > How can raindrops hang in a circular arc without falling? > > Oh dear. Mitch, do you really believe this is what's claimed? > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - What science claims is similar to the pot of gold but it is sciences myth of an explanation and that will never work. Mitch Raemsch; Science can't explain a rainbow
From: xxein on 6 May 2010 19:07
On May 6, 6:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 6, 2:57 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 4:38 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 6, 12:56 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 2:29 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 6, 12:00 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 1:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 6, 11:42 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 1:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 7:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 9:21 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > If the electric force has an opposite which acts as an attraction it > > > > > > > > > > > would mean that the electron and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > > > > > because of it. But you have to force these particles together so how > > > > > > > > > > > can you say they attract one another? > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > No, it does NOT mean that electrons and protons ought to come together > > > > > > > > > > because of it. > > > > > > > > > > No that makes no sense that they are attractive but they don't come > > > > > > > > > together without force. > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > The reason is angular momentum. > > > > > > > > > > The simple test you can do in the town library where you make your > > > > > > > > > > posts is to swing a pail of water in a vertical circle. You'll note > > > > > > > > > > that if you swing fast enough, the water does not fall out of the pail > > > > > > > > > > onto your head, even when the pail is overhead and gravity is pulling > > > > > > > > > > the water downward. Note that gravity and the pressure from the sides > > > > > > > > > > and bottom of the pail are the only forces acting on the water. > > > > > > > > > > So, once you figure out why gravity doesn't make the water fall out of > > > > > > > > > > the pail onto your head when you do this, you'll understand perhaps > > > > > > > > > > why the moon doesn't fall into the earth, why the earth doesn't fall > > > > > > > > > > into the sun, and why the electron doesn't fall into the proton. > > > > > > > > > > Can youi please show how attraction doesn't bring them together? > > > > > > > > > Lets be sensible. > > > > > > > > > There's nothing like seeing things with your own eyes. This is why I > > > > > > > > suggested the pail of water trick, which you can actually do. > > > > > > > > > Then try to tell yourself what you're seeing doesn't make sense. > > > > > > > > > If it actually happens, it has to make sense. It's just that you > > > > > > > > haven't figured out how to make sense of it.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > If an electron and a proton have to be forced together it makes no > > > > > > > sense that they are attractive. > > > > > > > Who says they have to be forced together? > > > > > > Neutronium says they have to be forced together. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > Are you talking about a wiki article?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Wackypedia thinks that science has a explanation to a rainbow when it > > > is all made up. That phenomenon doesn't yield to science. > > > > How can raindrops hang in a circular arc without falling? > > > Oh dear. Mitch, do you really believe this is what's claimed? > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > What science claims is similar to the pot of gold but it is sciences > myth of an explanation and that will never work. > > Mitch Raemsch; Science can't explain a rainbow- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - xxein: Reduce 3rd grade to pampers. |