Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse
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From: Steve Kemp on 17 Apr 2010 15:20 On Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 15:00:15 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > > "They" probably haven't fixed it since it hasn't been reported as > > a bug. > > As for the download problem, I didn't report a bug because someone else > got there first: Debian bug report number 563056. Your message initially didn't have that link; so thanks for providing it. I think I over-reacted because I'm used to seeing people give lists of alleged problems in software, but without enough details to allow anybody else to confirm them, or investigate. Sometimes you'll get lucky and somebody else will report it; but posting to the users mailing list thing like: * I use software XX but it is buggy and now I use something else Just feels like a random rant, not the start of a useful or productive discussion. (Which is pretty much what you did.) > As for the reply bug, I just noticed it today; and no, I haven't > reported a bug yet. I'm not sure I'm going to. I already said why. Indeed. Still if it affects one site it probably affects others, unless it is caused by a particularly malformed HTML/javascript/whatever that site uses behind the scenes. On that basis its useful to report, if only so that other users of that particular site can see it. Even without that perhaps saving the page, and associated media to your local machine might still trigger it. If that is the case you can trim down the page(s) a lot and see if you can find out what causes it yourself. (Assuming you're familiar with HTML & so on.) Steve -- Debian GNU/Linux System Administration http://www.debian-administration.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100417201651.GA17362(a)steve.org.uk
From: Alan Ianson on 17 Apr 2010 15:30 On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 13:17 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > I am continuing to suffer the on-going de-volution of the once-decent > epiphany browser under Debian Squeeze. First they broke file > downloading. They still haven't fixed that. I'll bet it's been > six months or more. > > Now I can't reply to any e-mails using the Wow basic > webmail client. I click on the "Reply" button, the mail compose > screen appears for a fraction of a second, then I get this error > screen. The problem does not occur with iceweasel. The problem is > very recent. It broke with a recent > "aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade" sequence. I suppose I could > report a bug, but I'm not about to give them my password so they > can logon as me to test it! I'm going back to iceweasel again. > I kept using epiphany so I would know when the file download feature > got fixed. Instead they broke something else. I've noticed the same things. I've stuck with epiphany because it worked so well for so long but there are times recently when I need to use iceweasel. I think it's the switch from the gecko backend to webkit that broke a lot of things that used to work well. I keep hoping that these problems can be resolved but time will tell. I use unstable and downloading works fine but java apps that use the plugin still don't work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1271532311.13144.4.camel(a)debian.ok.shawcable.net
From: Stephen Powell on 17 Apr 2010 22:30 On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:16:51 -0400 (EDT), Steve Kemp wrote: > I think I over-reacted because I'm used to seeing people give > lists of alleged problems in software, but without enough details to > allow anybody else to confirm them, or investigate. > Sometimes you'll get lucky and somebody else will report it; but posting > to the users mailing list thing like: > > * I use software XX but it is buggy and now I use something else > > Just feels like a random rant, not the start of a useful or productive > discussion. (Which is pretty much what you did.) I see your point. I'll try to give more details next time. > Stephen Powell wrote: >> As for the reply bug, I just noticed it today; and no, I haven't >> reported a bug yet. I'm not sure I'm going to. I already said why. > > Indeed. Still if it affects one site it probably affects others, > unless it is caused by a particularly malformed > HTML/javascript/whatever that site uses behind the scenes. > On that basis its useful to report, if only so that other users > of that particular site can see it. > > Even without that perhaps saving the page, and associated media > to your local machine might still trigger it. If that is the case you > can trim down the page(s) a lot and see if you can find out what causes > it yourself. (Assuming you're familiar with HTML & so on.) OK, I'll tell you what. Since I know that a newer version which fixes at least one bug I'm experiencing is waiting in the wings in Sid, and since Squeeze hasn't frozen yet, I'll wait until the new version migrates to Squeeze. (Let's hope that Squeeze doesn't freeze first.) And then I'll try again. And if I still get the same error, I'll at least *try* to come up with a test case. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/712849440.105092.1271557302610.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com
From: Stephen Powell on 17 Apr 2010 22:40 On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:25:11 -0400 (EDT), Alan Ianson wrote: > > I've noticed the same things. I've stuck with epiphany because it worked > so well for so long but there are times recently when I need to use > iceweasel. I think it's the switch from the gecko backend to webkit that > broke a lot of things that used to work well. > > I keep hoping that these problems can be resolved but time will tell. I > use unstable and downloading works fine but java apps that use the > plugin still don't work. That's not good news. Which plugin? The Sun non-free one? There is one site that I used to use a lot that requires that to work. (It's a stock analysis site.) I haven't been in the market lately, but I expect to be active again at some point. And when I do want to use it, I want it to work! Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well. I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294176377.105221.1271557958341.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com
From: Ron Johnson on 17 Apr 2010 23:10
On 2010-04-17 21:32, Stephen Powell wrote: [snip] > > Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well. > I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Origins -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BCA7591.1050100(a)cox.net |