From: Alan Ianson on 17 Apr 2010 23:30 On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 22:32 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:25:11 -0400 (EDT), Alan Ianson wrote: > > > > I've noticed the same things. I've stuck with epiphany because it worked > > so well for so long but there are times recently when I need to use > > iceweasel. I think it's the switch from the gecko backend to webkit that > > broke a lot of things that used to work well. > > > > I keep hoping that these problems can be resolved but time will tell. I > > use unstable and downloading works fine but java apps that use the > > plugin still don't work. > > That's not good news. Which plugin? The Sun non-free one? There is one > site that I used to use a lot that requires that to work. (It's a stock > analysis site.) I haven't been in the market lately, but I expect to be > active again at some point. And when I do want to use it, I want it to > work! Yes, that's the one I use. There is progress with java in Epiphany. The java test page... http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1 does work as expected now where it didn't a short time ago. I'm happy with the way Epiphany works now myself, but my gf likes to play games at pogo.com and that website complains that the plugin isn't installed even though it is, and I hear grumbling about that on a regular basis.. :) > Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well. > I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore. I'm not certain but the devs must feel it's a good strategy for the future... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1271561226.18395.7.camel(a)debian.ok.shawcable.net
From: Lisi on 20 Apr 2010 09:30 On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote: > Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes > are completely functional? A lot of us don't. And I don't fix things that aren't broken either. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201004201424.41039.lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com
From: Ron Johnson on 20 Apr 2010 09:40 On 2010-04-20 08:24, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote: >> Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes >> are completely functional? > > A lot of us don't. And I don't fix things that aren't broken either. > (I _knew_ I'd get an email or two like this...) Neither do *all* geeks consistently and constantly buy new kit. HOWEVER... since enough women and geeks *do* do what I suggest, they fuel two thriving multi-multi-billion dollar industries. So, it's patently obvious that these two generalizations fit the populations to which they were applied. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BCDAE8F.9010103(a)cox.net
From: Stephen Powell on 20 Apr 2010 10:20 On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:39:27 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-20 08:24, Lisi wrote: >> On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes >>> are completely functional? >> >> A lot of us don't. And I don't fix things that aren't broken either. > > (I _knew_ I'd get an email or two like this...) > > Neither do *all* geeks consistently and constantly buy new kit. > > HOWEVER... since enough women and geeks *do* do what I suggest, they > fuel two thriving multi-multi-billion dollar industries. > > So, it's patently obvious that these two generalizations fit the > populations to which they were applied. No doubt you will claim that the exception proves the rule, and you may be right. But I am definitely a geek. I got a new laptop for my birthday a few days ago. My wife, sons, siblings, inlaws, etc. all chipped in for it because I was too cheap to buy one for myself. The only reason that I asked for one for my birthday was because my old laptop, which was new in 1998, has a hard drive (4G) which I have almost outgrown. By the time I install a full-blown Linux desktop environment on it, there's not much room left for user files. Otherwise, I would have been content to continue running my 12-year-old 266 MHz Pentium II with 416M of RAM, 2M of video RAM, and no 3D graphics acceleration. On the other end of the spectrum, Epiphany's motto seems to be, "If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is!" -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1391349987.168491.1271772706833.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com
From: Stephen Powell on 19 Apr 2010 21:00
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-17 21:32, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well. >> I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Origins Maybe I'm slow, Ron, but I don't follow you. The above link appears to give the origins of webkit, but I didn't see anything there about why epiphany-browser decided to switch from gecko, which was working well, to webkit, which has apparently caused a lot of problems. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1216380444.155482.1271724785630.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com |