From: Alan Ianson on
On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 22:32 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:25:11 -0400 (EDT), Alan Ianson wrote:
> >
> > I've noticed the same things. I've stuck with epiphany because it worked
> > so well for so long but there are times recently when I need to use
> > iceweasel. I think it's the switch from the gecko backend to webkit that
> > broke a lot of things that used to work well.
> >
> > I keep hoping that these problems can be resolved but time will tell. I
> > use unstable and downloading works fine but java apps that use the
> > plugin still don't work.
>
> That's not good news. Which plugin? The Sun non-free one? There is one
> site that I used to use a lot that requires that to work. (It's a stock
> analysis site.) I haven't been in the market lately, but I expect to be
> active again at some point. And when I do want to use it, I want it to
> work!

Yes, that's the one I use. There is progress with java in Epiphany. The
java test page...

http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1

does work as expected now where it didn't a short time ago. I'm happy
with the way Epiphany works now myself, but my gf likes to play games at
pogo.com and that website complains that the plugin isn't installed even
though it is, and I hear grumbling about that on a regular basis.. :)

> Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well.
> I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore.

I'm not certain but the devs must feel it's a good strategy for the
future...



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From: Lisi on
On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote:
> Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes
> are completely functional?

A lot of us don't. And I don't fix things that aren't broken either.

Lisi


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From: Ron Johnson on
On 2010-04-20 08:24, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes
>> are completely functional?
>
> A lot of us don't. And I don't fix things that aren't broken either.
>

(I _knew_ I'd get an email or two like this...)

Neither do *all* geeks consistently and constantly buy new kit.

HOWEVER... since enough women and geeks *do* do what I suggest, they
fuel two thriving multi-multi-billion dollar industries.

So, it's patently obvious that these two generalizations fit the
populations to which they were applied.

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From: Stephen Powell on
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:39:27 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-20 08:24, Lisi wrote:
>> On Tuesday 20 April 2010 03:21:52 Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> Why do women buy new clothes every year when their existing clothes
>>> are completely functional?
>>
>> A lot of us don't. And I don't fix things that aren't broken either.
>
> (I _knew_ I'd get an email or two like this...)
>
> Neither do *all* geeks consistently and constantly buy new kit.
>
> HOWEVER... since enough women and geeks *do* do what I suggest, they
> fuel two thriving multi-multi-billion dollar industries.
>
> So, it's patently obvious that these two generalizations fit the
> populations to which they were applied.

No doubt you will claim that the exception proves the rule,
and you may be right. But I am definitely a geek. I got a new laptop
for my birthday a few days ago. My wife, sons, siblings, inlaws,
etc. all chipped in for it because I was too cheap to buy one for
myself. The only reason that I asked for one for my birthday was
because my old laptop, which was new in 1998, has a hard drive (4G) which
I have almost outgrown. By the time I install a full-blown Linux desktop
environment on it, there's not much room left for user files. Otherwise,
I would have been content to continue running my 12-year-old 266 MHz
Pentium II with 416M of RAM, 2M of video RAM, and no 3D graphics acceleration.

On the other end of the spectrum, Epiphany's motto seems to be,
"If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is!"

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From: Stephen Powell on
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT), Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-17 21:32, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>
>> Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway? It was working so well.
>> I still use it in Lenny. But not in Squeeze. Not anymore.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Origins

Maybe I'm slow, Ron, but I don't follow you. The above link appears to
give the origins of webkit, but I didn't see anything there about why
epiphany-browser decided to switch from gecko, which was working well,
to webkit, which has apparently caused a lot of problems.

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