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From: alexd on 19 Mar 2010 13:33 On 18/03/10 15:53, Roy wrote: > Seoul has a density of 44,000 people per square mile, San Jose is less > than 6,000. San Francisco is less than 7,000. NYC is around 27,000. Nuenen in the Netherlands has a pop den of 1742/sq mile and they've all [90%] got fibre: http://www.rogerdarlington.me.uk/Nuenen.html Eindhoven is next. I'm sure you God-fearing capitalists will abhor the idea of a co-operative building a broadband network, but hey, your loss! -- <http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm(a)ale.cx) 17:13:24 up 43 days, 17:17, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.16, 0.12 It is better to have been wasted and then sober than to never have been wasted at all
From: John Higdon on 19 Mar 2010 13:52 In article <ho0cho$1la$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, alexd <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 18/03/10 15:53, Roy wrote: > > > > Seoul has a density of 44,000 people per square mile, San Jose is less > > than 6,000. San Francisco is less than 7,000. NYC is around 27,000. > > Nuenen in the Netherlands has a pop den of 1742/sq mile and they've all > [90%] got fibre: > > http://www.rogerdarlington.me.uk/Nuenen.html > > Eindhoven is next. I'm sure you God-fearing capitalists will abhor the > idea of a co-operative building a broadband network, but hey, your loss! Iceland is very well connected. I never knew that Iceland was a highly dense country. -- John Higdon +1 408 ANdrews 6-4400 AT&T-Free At Last
From: John Richards on 19 Mar 2010 14:28 "alexd" <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ho0cho$1la$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > Nuenen in the Netherlands has a pop den of 1742/sq mile and they've all > [90%] got fibre: > > http://www.rogerdarlington.me.uk/Nuenen.html > > Eindhoven is next. I'm sure you God-fearing capitalists will abhor the > idea of a co-operative building a broadband network, but hey, your loss! Government interference through various subsidies hides the true cost of providing such service. It boils down to a willingness by everyone to pay higher taxes in order to get more cradle-to-grave services. Most Americans are unwilling to pay higher taxes. -- John Richards
From: John Higdon on 19 Mar 2010 14:42 In article <ho0fot$ikt$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "John Richards" <JR(a)blackhole.invalid> wrote: > Government interference through various subsidies hides the true cost of > providing such service. It boils down to a willingness by everyone to pay > higher taxes in order to get more cradle-to-grave services. Most Americans > are unwilling to pay higher taxes. We have too much of the Internet in this country handled by huge corporations that are also content providers. They have a vested interest in keeping consumer Internet access crippled. After all, they don't want people streaming in program material from competing content providers over *their* wires, as David Whitaker, former CEO of SBC put it. It may be that "government interference" may be the only way we get anything at all at any kind of affordable price to the user. I'm not putting a lot of faith in Comcast or AT&T. -- John Higdon +1 408 ANdrews 6-4400 AT&T-Free At Last
From: Roy on 19 Mar 2010 14:45
On 3/19/2010 10:52 AM, John Higdon wrote: > In article<ho0cho$1la$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, > alexd<troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On 18/03/10 15:53, Roy wrote: >> >> >>> Seoul has a density of 44,000 people per square mile, San Jose is less >>> than 6,000. San Francisco is less than 7,000. NYC is around 27,000. >> >> Nuenen in the Netherlands has a pop den of 1742/sq mile and they've all >> [90%] got fibre: >> >> http://www.rogerdarlington.me.uk/Nuenen.html >> >> Eindhoven is next. I'm sure you God-fearing capitalists will abhor the >> idea of a co-operative building a broadband network, but hey, your loss! > > Iceland is very well connected. I never knew that Iceland was a highly > dense country. > 60% of the population lives in one city which occupies 300 square miles (think 30 by 10 miles). The country is basically bankrupt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932009_Icelandic_financial_crisis |