From: Jim Thompson on
On 31 Jan 2010 10:51:43 -0800, Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote:

>
> Working on a table for our book, soliciting your
> opinions, info and advice. For example, try these:
>
> '3904 ans '3906 = jellybean?

Absolutely! Probably the most popular general purpose NPN/PNP pair
around.

>
> MPS5179, PN5179, MMBT5179 -- what's PNP equivalent?
>
> BC547 NPN, sot-23 equiv = BC847, right?
> BC557 PNP, sot-23 = BC857 ?
> can I just show the C-grade high-beta variant?
>
> '2369 ... what's a better type, PNP equiv?

'2369 is a gold-doped NPN made for switching purposes (dating to my
youth :-). I don't know of a complement.

>
> and etc...
>
> I'm working on two tables, a short one for inclusion
> within the body of the transistor chapter, and a long
> one to be placed at the back of the book. Your
> favorite candidates are solicited.

Raytheon CK722 ?:-)

...Jim Thompson
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From: Winfield Hill on
Jim Thompson wrote...
>
>> '2369 ... what's a better type, PNP equiv?
>
> '2369 is a gold-doped NPN made for switching purposes
> (dating to my youth :-). I don't know of a complement.

I remember in the old days we were told these were
gold-doped, and modern '2369 parts still have the
same specs. But are they still gold doped?

Do IC fabs often use gold doping? (Yes, I know a
designer can use circuit schemes instead to reduce
storage time.) Are there other gold-doped discrete
transistors we should know about?


--
Thanks,
- Win
From: Winfield Hill on
Hammy wrote...
>
> NPN - BC817
> http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/datasheets/BC817_BC817W_BC337_5.pdf
>
> PNP Complement - BC807
> http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/datasheets/BC807_BC807W_BC327_5.pdf
>
> Jelly beans about the same price as 3904-06's

Yep, and good for higher currents.
Nice beta curves at low Ic.


--
Thanks,
- Win
From: Jim Thompson on
On 31 Jan 2010 12:37:43 -0800, Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote:

>Jim Thompson wrote...
>>
>>> '2369 ... what's a better type, PNP equiv?
>>
>> '2369 is a gold-doped NPN made for switching purposes
>> (dating to my youth :-). I don't know of a complement.
>
> I remember in the old days we were told these were
> gold-doped, and modern '2369 parts still have the
> same specs. But are they still gold doped?

Win, I don't have an absolute answer for that, but I think they still
are.

>
> Do IC fabs often use gold doping?

Original-flavor TTL is still gold doped. But Schottky versions don't
need storage control (lifetime killing) doping.

Naturally, CMOS doesn't have saturation in the bipolar sense... quite
a God-send for many of my designs.

ECL, MECL, PECL avoid the issue by simply being current steering only.

>(Yes, I know a
> designer can use circuit schemes instead to reduce
> storage time.) Are there other gold-doped discrete
> transistors we should know about?

I'll ask around.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
| Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: JeffM on
Jim Thompson wrote:
>Winfield Hill wrote:
>>Your favorite candidates are solicited.
>>
>Raytheon CK722 ?:-)

How do you clean off the Cosmoline?
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