From: Okkim Atnarivik on
John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in

> <Okkim.Atnarivik(a)24.fi.invalid> wrote:
>>low noise at intermediate frequencies. As an instance, the voltage
>>noise of the SiGe BFP650 can be less than 1/4 nanovolt. An example
>
> Cool.
>
> Fig 4 is impressive, but "base grounded" implies that it will be
> useful only for very low source impedances. Transformers get

Current noise is in the ballpark of 4.5 pA/rtHz, which makes it
approximately to noise-match with a 50ohm source at an order-of 40K
noise temperature. The frequency range extends at least up to
100 MHz but probably still much higher, even with the tranquilizers
present.

I have had difficulties to wind really wideband transformers on
low-loss cores in the past. The sporadic commercial transformers
I've tried tended to have to high-enough losses to eat the noise temp.

> interesting in such situations, or *lots* of opamps or jfets in
> parallel, which will be better at low frequencies.

True, done that in the past, with BF862's for instance. It just
gets complicated, and in wideband designs you may create curious
oscillation modes. In the sub-10kHz you can indeed do better with
some other amps.

Regards,
Mikko

From: Joerg on
Okkim Atnarivik wrote:

[...]

> True, done that in the past, with BF862's for instance. ...
^^^^^

Hey, Winfield, Mikko just brought another excellent one for the
jelly-bean list. This one has got to be in there, very low pinch-off
JFET, steep enough to start an oscillator from less voltage than a fuel
cell provides. Very useful.

How could I have forgotten, oh, this will haunt me, the wrath of the old
Philips engineers will come upon me ...

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From: Okkim Atnarivik on
Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in news:7soub2Fc5mU1
> Hey, Winfield, Mikko just brought another excellent one for the
> jelly-bean list. This one has got to be in there, very low pinch-off
> JFET, steep enough to start an oscillator from less voltage than a fuel

Yes, but he asked for BJTs...

From: Robert Baer on
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On 31 Jan 2010 10:51:43 -0800, Winfield Hill
> <Winfield_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> Working on a table for our book, soliciting your
>> opinions, info and advice. For example, try these:
>>
>> '3904 ans '3906 = jellybean?
>
> Absolutely! Probably the most popular general purpose NPN/PNP pair
> around.
>
>> MPS5179, PN5179, MMBT5179 -- what's PNP equivalent?
>>
>> BC547 NPN, sot-23 equiv = BC847, right?
>> BC557 PNP, sot-23 = BC857 ?
>> can I just show the C-grade high-beta variant?
>>
>> '2369 ... what's a better type, PNP equiv?
>
> '2369 is a gold-doped NPN made for switching purposes (dating to my
> youth :-). I don't know of a complement.
>
>> and etc...
>>
>> I'm working on two tables, a short one for inclusion
>> within the body of the transistor chapter, and a long
>> one to be placed at the back of the book. Your
>> favorite candidates are solicited.
>
> Raytheon CK722 ?:-)
>
> ...Jim Thompson
Want a working unit?
From: Jim Thompson on
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:20:19 -0800, Robert Baer
<robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote:

>Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On 31 Jan 2010 10:51:43 -0800, Winfield Hill
>> <Winfield_member(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Working on a table for our book, soliciting your
>>> opinions, info and advice. For example, try these:
>>>
>>> '3904 ans '3906 = jellybean?
>>
>> Absolutely! Probably the most popular general purpose NPN/PNP pair
>> around.
>>
>>> MPS5179, PN5179, MMBT5179 -- what's PNP equivalent?
>>>
>>> BC547 NPN, sot-23 equiv = BC847, right?
>>> BC557 PNP, sot-23 = BC857 ?
>>> can I just show the C-grade high-beta variant?
>>>
>>> '2369 ... what's a better type, PNP equiv?
>>
>> '2369 is a gold-doped NPN made for switching purposes (dating to my
>> youth :-). I don't know of a complement.
>>
>>> and etc...
>>>
>>> I'm working on two tables, a short one for inclusion
>>> within the body of the transistor chapter, and a long
>>> one to be placed at the back of the book. Your
>>> favorite candidates are solicited.
>>
>> Raytheon CK722 ?:-)
>>
>> ...Jim Thompson
> Want a working unit?

I have several each of CK722, CK760 and CK761 (if I can remember where
I stashed them :-). My father was a Raytheon wholesaler from 1956
onward for quite a few years.

...Jim Thompson
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