From: Bill Sloman on
On Jan 31, 11:22 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On 31 Jan 2010 14:15:03 -0800, Winfield Hill
>
>
>
> <Winfield_mem...(a)newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > Here's what I have so far in the condensed table:
>
> >NPN                         PNP            
> >TO-92               SOT-23          TO-92           SOT-23
> >2N3904              MMBT3904        2N3906          MMBT3906
> >2N4401              MMBT4401        2N4403          MMBT4403
> >BC337               BC817           BC327           BC807
> >2N5089              MMBT5089        2N5087          MMBT5087
> >BC547C              BC847C          BC557C          BC857C
> >MPSA14              MMBTA14         MPSA64          MMBTA64
> >ZTX618              FMMT618         ZTX718          FMMT718
> >PN2369              MMBT2369        2N5771          MMBT5771
> >2N5550              MMBT5550        2N5401          MMBT5401
> >MPSA42              MMBTA42         MPSA92          MMBTA92
> >MPS5179             BFS17                          
> >            BFT92                           BFT93
> >TIP142                              TIP147          
>
> > with performance details in columns off to the right.
>
> Are you showing the BFT92 as an NPN? Or is it a posting wrap artifact?
> It's a PNP.
>
> Packaged transistors with Ft's much above 1 GHz are hard to use...
> they tend to oscillate in any circuit that's not intended to be an
> oscillator. PHEMTs on the other hand usually behave pretty well.

The BFR92 and BFR92A are the complements of the PNP BFT92.

They all tend to oscillate, but putting a 33R "base-stopper" resistor
in series with base (and close up against it) kills off most
oscillations, without doing much damage to the high-frequency gain.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

From: Robert Latest on
Winfield Hill wrote:

> Do IC fabs often use gold doping?

I've never heard of that. I think gold and other alchemy is what keeps
discretes fabs alive and kicking in ol' US and Europe.

> (Yes, I know a
> designer can use circuit schemes instead to reduce
> storage time.) Are there other gold-doped discrete
> transistors we should know about?

I need to look, but I think NXP's 3904 and 3906 (complementary) are gold
doped. The 3904 uses the same process as the BSR13, and I know that
BSR13 has a gold doping step.

robert
From: Robert Latest on
Hammy wrote:

> Here's a couple of On Semi's low Vce sat bjt's.They are a little
> pricey but still cheaper then diodes comparable FMMT series.

Good call! NXP also have a similar line (called BISS), I don't know how
they compare to ON's stuff.

robert
From: Joerg on
Winfield Hill wrote:
> John Larkin wrote...
>>
>> Hi, Win!
>>
>> BCX70, BCX71; beta graded!
>>
>> 2N7002, as sub for BJT
>

I'd also throw the BSS84 for P-channel into the hat. It's my jelly-bean
part.


> Hah!
>
>> BFT25, as a transistor and as a diode. It's a better
>> pA diode than a PAD1.
>
> Yep, very small die.
>
>> BFS17, fast but not too fast.
>
> What, no PNP equivalent?

> I've got BFT92 and BFT93 in the table.
> How does the BFT25 compare to the BFT92?
>

The BFT25 is NPN. Phil Hobbs should be able to give a good account on
that one.

While we're at it, what other categories do you need hints for? For
example, for drivers con mucho gusto the MIC4421/22 series is great but
hardly any young engineer knows about stuff like that.

Oh, and tell readers not to blindly trust POR/BOR circuitry inside a uC ;-)

Can't hurt to mention some of the budget rockets, like the BFP620, but
with the usual caution notes (like that it might be oscillating without
even noticing it, until a government van shows up ...):

http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/bfp620.pdf?folderId=db3a30431400ef68011425b291f205c5&fileId=db3a30431400ef680114274deb27072a

--
Regards, Joerg

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From: Hammy on
On 1 Feb 2010 19:35:58 GMT, Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hammy wrote:
>
>> Here's a couple of On Semi's low Vce sat bjt's.They are a little
>> pricey but still cheaper then diodes comparable FMMT series.
>
>Good call! NXP also have a similar line (called BISS), I don't know how
>they compare to ON's stuff.
>
>robert

I think they all have low Vce sat BJT's now. For example Fairchild's
got these;

FSB560 NPN - 2A; 60V; SOT-23

http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FS/FSB560A.pdf

FSB660A PNP - 2A; 60V; SOT-23

http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FS/FSB660A.pdf

I've never used those two but they are cheap a dime for the NPN at
Newark; the PNP isn't stocked.

A quick search of Fairchild shows at least 6 low sat bjt's ranging
from 1 amp to 3amps.

Another decent one from Onsemi I have used and have is the

MBT35200MT1 PNP - 2A; 35V; TSOP-6

http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/MBT35200MT1-D.PDF

I do prefer On semis datasheets to Zetex/Diodes, and stateing the
equivalent Rdson is a good idea for quick comparisons.
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