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From: Patrick Scheible on 17 May 2010 03:17 Seebs <usenet-nospam(a)seebs.net> writes: > On 2010-05-17, Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)ocis.net> wrote: > > On 16 May 2010 14:32:22 GMT, Lewis > ><g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > >>It won't be long before we will be able to 'clean' undesired genes, and > >>the technology to select embryos based on genes is already with us. Not > >>saying anyone is actually doing this, but the technology exists. > > > Define "undesired genes". > > Ones that the parents don't want. I think that definition lacks something. In some countries, that would include being female. > I don't think you'd see much complaint, though, if we just eliminated > cystic fibrosis entirely. That would be good... -- Patrick
From: Lewis on 17 May 2010 03:59 In message <3ug1v55d7v1mif0mm29db9ofg93c0ime6q(a)4ax.com> Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)ocis.net> wrote: > On 16 May 2010 09:03:56 GMT, Lewis > <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >>In message <d9a4b1a6-ba94-4997-abe7-f93216cceeb2(a)p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> >> Mensanator <mensanator(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> Doesn't "inner planets" include Mars? >> >>The inner planets includes Jupiter. > The first page of a Google search on "inner planets" does not > agree with you. It does not make sense that the inner planets would > include Jupiter since Jupiter is the first of the gas giants. Perhaps they changed the clustering when they changed the definitions of planets. I have several books here that all list Jupiter as part of the Inner Planets. Of course, they also list Pluto. Jupiter is *much* closer to the sun than the outer planets (Saturn is twice as far from the sun as Jupiter, Uranus is twice as far again, and Neptune is thrice as far as Saturn). -- We will fight for Bovine Freedom and hold our large heads high We will run free with the Buffalo or die
From: Lewis on 17 May 2010 04:01 In message <32h1v5di0lh1jcqg6s60lfbc7gml3plnku(a)4ax.com> Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)ocis.net> wrote: > On 16 May 2010 14:32:22 GMT, Lewis > <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > [snip] >>It won't be long before we will be able to 'clean' undesired genes, and >>the technology to select embryos based on genes is already with us. Not >>saying anyone is actually doing this, but the technology exists. > Define "undesired genes". Before doing so, consider that > although sickle cell anemia is a nasty condition and is recessive, > having one gene for it gives resistance to malaria. Hey, I'm not in favor of it, which is why I put clean in quotes. -- Nine-tenths of the universe is the knowledge of the position and direction of everything in the other tenth. Every atom has its biography, every star its file, every chemical exchange its equivalent of the inspector with a clipboard. It is unaccounted for because it is doing the accounting for the rest of it. Nine-tenths of the universe, in fact, is the paperwork. --The Thief of Time
From: Morten Reistad on 17 May 2010 04:51 In article <w9zhbm73sk9.fsf(a)zipcon.net>, Patrick Scheible <kkt(a)zipcon.net> wrote: >Seebs <usenet-nospam(a)seebs.net> writes: > >> On 2010-05-17, Gene Wirchenko <genew(a)ocis.net> wrote: >> > On 16 May 2010 14:32:22 GMT, Lewis >> ><g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> >>It won't be long before we will be able to 'clean' undesired genes, and >> >>the technology to select embryos based on genes is already with us. Not >> >>saying anyone is actually doing this, but the technology exists. >> >> > Define "undesired genes". >> >> Ones that the parents don't want. > >I think that definition lacks something. In some countries, that >would include being female. > >> I don't think you'd see much complaint, though, if we just eliminated >> cystic fibrosis entirely. > >That would be good... That gene is intertwined with the northern european mutation that gives a much higher lactosis tolerance in adults. It made the northern pastoralian economy possible. Since I don't have that gene, I cannot drink much milk. My uncle, as MD, diagnosed it as "a condition you share with 80% of the world's adult population; "weaned"". He stubbornly refused to clessify it as a disease. -- mrr
From: Ian Gregory on 17 May 2010 07:30
On 2010-05-17, Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > Perhaps they changed the clustering when they changed the definitions of > planets. I am fairly certain they didn't, when I was at school in the 1970's we were taught that Jupiter was the first of the outer planets. > I have several books here that all list Jupiter as part of the > Inner Planets. Of course, they also list Pluto. That is strange. I have never seen Jupiter included in the inner planets. > Jupiter is *much* closer to the sun than the outer planets (Saturn is > twice as far from the sun as Jupiter, Yes, but Jupiter is nearly three and a half times as far from the sun as Mars, and separated from Mars by the asteroid belt, and as someone else said, as a gas giant it is fundamentally different from the rocky inner planets. Ian -- Ian Gregory http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ |