From: Wes Groleau on
On 05-22-2010 01:39, DMcCunney wrote:
> fundamentals. Look at his early work, for example, and you discover
> that Picasso could *draw*.

I once watched a TV biography of Picasso, which included lots of views
of his work. I remember noticing that the realistic works mostly were
done when he had a girlfriend, and the cubist when he did not.

I will not go any deeper into amateur psychology. :-)

--
Wes Groleau

I've noticed lately that the paranoid fear of computers becoming
intelligent and taking over the world has almost entirely disappeared
from the common culture. Near as I can tell, this coincides with
the release of MS-DOS.
-- Larry DeLuca
From: Wes Groleau on
On 05-22-2010 13:14, Wes Groleau wrote:
> I will not go any deeper into amateur psychology. :-)

On second thought, I will. Now that I've lost my wife,
I can definitely understand such a phenomenon.

NOW I'll retire from the field.

--
Wes Groleau

"A miracle is a violation of the laws of nature, and as a
firm and unalterable experience has established these laws,
the proof against a miracle, from the very nature of the fact,
is as entire as could possibly be imagined."
-- David Hume, age 37
"There's no such thing of that, 'cause I never heard of it."
-- Becky Groleau, age 4
From: DMcCunney on
* Geoffrey S. Mendelson:
>
> Over the years, several satellites have been "reparked", or moved.

An old friend of mine worked for a Boeing unit in Seattle that did such
things. She became part of a group called the Seattle 7, because a
competitor was interested in them, and they told Boeing "Exceed their
offer, or we leave." Boeing needed them badly enough to do the
unthinkable and give them substantial out of band increases to keep
them. My friend had clients who specifically asked that *she* handle
their moves because they trusted her abilities. Boeing decided not to
find out the hard way whether they would follow her if she moved to a
competitor.

> Geoff.
______
Dennis


From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler on

DMcCunney <plugh(a)xyzzy.com> writes:
> An old friend of mine worked for a Boeing unit in Seattle that did such
> things. She became part of a group called the Seattle 7, because a
> competitor was interested in them, and they told Boeing "Exceed their
> offer, or we leave." Boeing needed them badly enough to do the
> unthinkable and give them substantial out of band increases to keep
> them. My friend had clients who specifically asked that *she* handle
> their moves because they trusted her abilities. Boeing decided not to
> find out the hard way whether they would follow her if she moved to a
> competitor.

when they folded sbs ... most of the people went to mci (the old mci
before getting absorbed by worldcom) and satellites were eventually
picked up by hughes ... now known today as boeing satellite systems:
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/bss/factsheets/601/dbs/dbs.html

all the uplink control and positioning that I remember was in castle
rock ... mentioned at the bottom of the above web page.

part of the issue was the challenger disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster

I was at the launch for sbs-4 on 41-d
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/archives/sts-41D.html

and newer satellites were designed for larger capacity of shuttle bay
and had to wait for larger ariane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_4

sbs-6 ... went up 1990 (after sbs was dissolved and satellites taken
over by hughes)
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/space/bss/factsheets/376/sbs_6/sbs_6.html

and mentioned here (12oct90)
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/business/ariane_milestones.html

SBS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Business_Systems

above mentions first commercial use of shuttle was flying sbs3.

supposedly one of the use of satellites was higher speed computer
communication ... but a lot of people came over from the SNA
organization ... which was very bad at handling (geo-sync) satellite
propogation delay ... and the standard 3705/3725 offering didn't handle
more than 56kbit. as a result ... their foreys into (sna) computer
communication didn't go well ... and it then seemed SBS sort-of drifted
into voice communication (which geo-sync delay was not also suited for).

my HSDT effort with T1 and higher-speed links ... got me pulled into
also driving satellite links (and handling propogation delay ... in
addition to terrestrial links)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#hsdt

I've used anecdote from the mid-80s about the large chasm between SNA
(mostly dumb terminal driver) paradigm and high-speed computer
communication.

One friday, somebody from the communication division sent out on
announcement on the internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internal

for a new discussion forum about computer communication that
included the following definition:

low-speed <9.6kbits
medium-speed 19.2kbits
high-speed 56kbits
very high-speed 1.5mbits

that weekend, I left on business trip to the other side of the pacific
.... and monday morning on the wall of conference room

low-speed <20mbits
medium-speed 100mbits
high-speed 200-300mbits
very high-speed >600mbits

about the same time, the communication group published an internal
report claiming that mainframe users didn't need more than 56kbit links
(i.e. could be considered justifying that 3705/3725 controllers didn't
support more than 56kbit links) ... which projected that it wouldn't be
until 1992 before mainframe customers would have requirement for T1
support.

Their analysis was based on study on "fat pipes" support by 3725
controller ... where two or more (separate) 56kbit links were treated as
single logical link. They showed the number of customers with two,
three, four, five, and six 56kbit links in single "fat pipes" ... where
above five ... the number was dropping to zero.

what they didn't document was that (at the time) typical telco rates for
T1 was about the same as five or six 56kbit links ... so when customer
required more than about 256kbit ... they moved to T1 and supported it
by some other vendors hardware. At the time of the "fat pipes" study
.... it was trivial possible to find 200 mainframe customers with T1s
installed (using other vendors products to support the links).

--
42yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler on
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn(a)garlic.com> writes:
> SBS
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Business_Systems

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#69 Favourite computer history books?

the sbs wiki page claims that the sbs earth station and been produced
from highly modified 8100.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_8100

when my wife was asked to review 8100 ... she turned thumbs down and it
was killed. past reference
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#75 Z/90, S/390, 370/ESA (slightly off topic)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002q.html#53 MVS History
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#27 IBM 3705 and UC.5
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005q.html#46 Intel strikes back with a parallel x86 design
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007f.html#55 Is computer history taught now?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008h.html#40 3277 terminals and emulators
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010.html#6 Larrabee delayed: anyone know what's happening?

for other drift ... past posts with old email from jul79 telling story
about MIT LISP machine people asking for 801s ... and being offered
8100s instead:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#65 801 (was Re: Reviving Multics
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#3 Architectural support for programming languages
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006o.html#45 "25th Anniversary of the Personal Computer"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006t.html#9 32 or even 64 registers for x86-64?

we did "custom" designed earth station for hsdt ... earlier reference
(in this thread) to one of the companies that built a set ... was
approached by a large telco asking if the company would build the telco
a duplicate set to the same spec (aka form of industrial espionage):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010i.html#27 Favourite computer history books?

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