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From: John Corliss on 4 Dec 2009 16:27
FredW wrote:
> No Spam wrote:
>
>> I am sure that this has been discussed before, but I need your
>> recommendations.
>>
>> I need a freeware firewall for Windows 7 64 Bit Ultimate, a lightweight
>> one.
>> It must allow me to control processes and applications that try to
>> connect to the network/Internet, I need to prevent certain applications
>> from calling home.
>> Your recommendations, as always, will be appreciated.
>
> I use the Windows firewall *and* Windows 7 Firewall Control.
> http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html
> That does what you require.
> (I blocked some software from calling.)
>
> OnlineArmor (4.0.0.14) is not available in 64-bit yet.
> The PCTools Firewall Plus versions 6.0.0.81 and 6.0.0.84 somehow did not
> recognize (new) programs trying to connect the outside world.
> Outpost Firewall Free 2009 does not install under Windows 7.
> Maybe I will try the Comodo Firewall (part of a "suite") someday soon.
> http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge/results.php

PCTools Firewall Plus uses HIPS, AFAIK. Maybe the programs you refer to
were on its list of "okay" programs?

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From: John Corliss on 4 Dec 2009 19:35
FredW wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> FredW wrote:
>>> The PCTools Firewall Plus versions 6.0.0.81 and 6.0.0.84 somehow did not
>>> recognize (new) programs trying to connect the outside world.
>> PCTools Firewall Plus uses HIPS, AFAIK. Maybe the programs you refer to
>> were on its list of "okay" programs?
>
> No, they were not, unfortunately.
> I had to insert manually some programs, because PCTools asked nothing at
> all, but in the end that did not work to my satisfaction.

Strange. Do you remember which programs they were?

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From: John Corliss on 5 Dec 2009 16:39
FredW wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:38:21 +0100, FredW <fredw(a)blackholespam.net>
> wrote:
>> Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
>> I uninstalled Windows 7 Firewall Control.
>> I installed PCTools Firewall Plus 6.0.0.86.
>>
>> I will keep the PCTools Firewall for the weekend to see what more will
>> happen (never a dull moment).
>
> The weekend is over for PCTools Firewall Plus.
> I found out that the update for Avira Antivir was already 45 minutes
> trying to get access to Internet.
> Of course there was no message of the PCTools firewall.
> Whatever I tried the update for Avira was completely taken over and
> blocked by the PCTools firewall (a kind of stalemate).
> Allowing "all" did not work, switching the firewall of did not work,
> even ending the update process in Task Manager did not work.
> Only a restart could stop the fruitless efforts of Avira.
> I also noticed that sometimes some of the (weather)gadgets in my sidebar
> were blocked, probably also by the firewall.
>
> After several restarts and trying to find out what PCTools did (or did
> not) under what circumstances, I gave up.
>
> I uninstalled PCTools Firewall.
> I used regedit to remove everything with "PCTools" and "PC Tools".
> I installed Windows 7 Firewall Control.
> My PC is back in (good) working order.

How strange that it allowed some through and caused problems by blocking
others. I'm using it on an XP Pro SP3 system and so far, it seems to
work okay. However, I will be checking to see which programs are calling
out. I had really hoped that I'd found a replacement for the aging Kerio
2.1.5 on my other system.

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From: Ron May on 5 Dec 2009 21:31
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:39:45 -0800, John Corliss <q34wsk20(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

> FredW wrote:
> > On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:38:21 +0100, FredW <fredw(a)blackholespam.net>
> > wrote:
> >> Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
> >> I uninstalled Windows 7 Firewall Control.
> >> I installed PCTools Firewall Plus 6.0.0.86.
> >>
> >> I will keep the PCTools Firewall for the weekend to see what more will
> >> happen (never a dull moment).
> >
> > The weekend is over for PCTools Firewall Plus.
> > I found out that the update for Avira Antivir was already 45 minutes
> > trying to get access to Internet.
> > Of course there was no message of the PCTools firewall.
> > Whatever I tried the update for Avira was completely taken over and
> > blocked by the PCTools firewall (a kind of stalemate).
> > Allowing "all" did not work, switching the firewall of did not work,
> > even ending the update process in Task Manager did not work.
> > Only a restart could stop the fruitless efforts of Avira.
> > I also noticed that sometimes some of the (weather)gadgets in my sidebar
> > were blocked, probably also by the firewall.
> >
> > After several restarts and trying to find out what PCTools did (or did
> > not) under what circumstances, I gave up.
> >
> > I uninstalled PCTools Firewall.
> > I used regedit to remove everything with "PCTools" and "PC Tools".
> > I installed Windows 7 Firewall Control.
> > My PC is back in (good) working order.
>
> How strange that it allowed some through and caused problems by blocking
> others. I'm using it on an XP Pro SP3 system and so far, it seems to
> work okay. However, I will be checking to see which programs are calling
> out. I had really hoped that I'd found a replacement for the aging Kerio
> 2.1.5 on my other system.

I think the issue might haver been in the default settings, particularly
"General > Automatically allow known applications" which is checked by
default and unchecked in my setup.

I still use Kerio 2.1.5 on XP and would use it on Vista if it worked (but
it doesn't).

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From: Richard Steinfeld on 6 Dec 2009 02:47
>
> How strange that it allowed some through and caused problems by blocking
> others. I'm using it on an XP Pro SP3 system and so far, it seems to
> work okay. However, I will be checking to see which programs are calling
> out. I had really hoped that I'd found a replacement for the aging Kerio
> 2.1.5 on my other system.
>

John, have you tried Online Armor? Can you compare it with the
PC-Tools firewall?

I like a rules-based firewall that can tell me when something
tries to contact its mother ship and can display what's going on
in a graphic. OA does this. I'm having a bit of difficulty
figuring it out, but it seems to be doing its job OK. Win XP Pro
SP2. I have various auto-things turned off due to the requirement
to keep my system running lean.

Richard
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