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From: nospam on 23 Feb 2010 13:22 In article <4b841bd0$0$19704$c36e2926(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > Where is this button of which you speak? I looked it up via google and > saw old references to a Mouse & Keyboard pane. Snow Leopard (at least > mine) doesn't have this. It has separate Keyboard and Mouse panes. Did > Apple remove this in 10.6? it very definitely has it, in the keyboard tab in the keyboard preference panel.
From: Jolly Roger on 23 Feb 2010 13:28 In article <4b841bd0$0$19704$c36e2926(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-23 00:29:01 -0800, Barry Margolin said: > > > In article <4b838ef2$0$1304$c30e2946(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > > > >> Please - how can I tell Snow Leopard to not intercept any function > >> keys??? > > > > In Keyboard preferences, check the box "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as > > standard function keys". Could it be any more obvious? > > It would be obvious if I had a checkbox like that :) > I'm looking at the Keyboard panel under System Preferences. > I see > Key Repeat Rate slider > Delay Until Repeat slider > Change Keyboard Type... button > Show Keyboard & Character Viewer in menu bar checkbox (checked) > Modifier Keys... button > Replacing Batteries... button > Set Up Bluetooth Keyboard... button > and the help "?" button > > Where is this button of which you speak? I looked it up via google and > saw old references to a Mouse & Keyboard pane. Snow Leopard (at least > mine) doesn't have this. It has separate Keyboard and Mouse panes. Did > Apple remove this in 10.6? Try this: 1. Click your desktop to bring the Finder to the front. 2. Click the Help menu, and type "function keys". 3. Click "Using keyboard function keys". 4. Follow the instructions. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: David Rogoff on 23 Feb 2010 13:40 On 2010-02-23 10:28:17 -0800, Jolly Roger said: > In article <4b841bd0$0$19704$c36e2926(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > >> On 2010-02-23 00:29:01 -0800, Barry Margolin said: >> >>> In article <4b838ef2$0$1304$c30e2946(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Please - how can I tell Snow Leopard to not intercept any function >>>> keys??? >>> >>> In Keyboard preferences, check the box "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as >>> standard function keys". Could it be any more obvious? >> >> It would be obvious if I had a checkbox like that :) >> I'm looking at the Keyboard panel under System Preferences. >> I see >> Key Repeat Rate slider >> Delay Until Repeat slider >> Change Keyboard Type... button >> Show Keyboard & Character Viewer in menu bar checkbox (checked) >> Modifier Keys... button >> Replacing Batteries... button >> Set Up Bluetooth Keyboard... button >> and the help "?" button >> >> Where is this button of which you speak? I looked it up via google and >> saw old references to a Mouse & Keyboard pane. Snow Leopard (at least >> mine) doesn't have this. It has separate Keyboard and Mouse panes. Did >> Apple remove this in 10.6? > > Try this: > > 1. Click your desktop to bring the Finder to the front. ok > 2. Click the Help menu, and type "function keys". ok > 3. Click "Using keyboard function keys". ok > 4. Follow the instructions. This brings up the Keyborad Shortcuts panel of the Keyboard pane. This lists a bunch of applications on one side and the assocoated keyboard shortcuts on the other. The listed apps are: Dashboard & Dock Dsiplay Expose & Spaces Front Row Keyboard & Text Input Screen Shots Services Spotlight Universal Access Application Shortcuts I went through all of these and don't see the "Use all F1..." button and also made sure no function keys are assigned to any app. Below that are is the selection of whether Tab accesses all controls or just text boxes and lists. What's going on? Maybe I'll go to the Apple store at lunch.
From: Tom Stiller on 23 Feb 2010 14:37 In article <4b842111$0$32107$c37e2936(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-23 10:28:17 -0800, Jolly Roger said: > > > In article <4b841bd0$0$19704$c36e2926(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > > > >> On 2010-02-23 00:29:01 -0800, Barry Margolin said: > >> > >>> In article <4b838ef2$0$1304$c30e2946(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Please - how can I tell Snow Leopard to not intercept any function > >>>> keys??? > >>> > >>> In Keyboard preferences, check the box "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as > >>> standard function keys". Could it be any more obvious? > >> > >> It would be obvious if I had a checkbox like that :) > >> I'm looking at the Keyboard panel under System Preferences. > >> I see > >> Key Repeat Rate slider > >> Delay Until Repeat slider > >> Change Keyboard Type... button > >> Show Keyboard & Character Viewer in menu bar checkbox (checked) > >> Modifier Keys... button > >> Replacing Batteries... button > >> Set Up Bluetooth Keyboard... button > >> and the help "?" button > >> > >> Where is this button of which you speak? I looked it up via google and > >> saw old references to a Mouse & Keyboard pane. Snow Leopard (at least > >> mine) doesn't have this. It has separate Keyboard and Mouse panes. Did > >> Apple remove this in 10.6? > > > > Try this: > > > > 1. Click your desktop to bring the Finder to the front. > ok > > 2. Click the Help menu, and type "function keys". > ok > > 3. Click "Using keyboard function keys". > ok > > 4. Follow the instructions. > This brings up the Keyborad Shortcuts panel of the Keyboard pane. > This lists a bunch of applications on one side and the assocoated > keyboard shortcuts on the other. The listed apps are: > > Dashboard & Dock > Dsiplay > Expose & Spaces > Front Row > Keyboard & Text Input > Screen Shots > Services > Spotlight > Universal Access > Application Shortcuts > > I went through all of these and don't see the "Use all F1..." button > and also made sure no function keys are assigned to any app. > > Below that are is the selection of whether Tab accesses all controls or > just text boxes and lists. > > What's going on? Maybe I'll go to the Apple store at lunch. Click the "Keyboard" button at the top of the pane. -- Tom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
From: David Rogoff on 23 Feb 2010 15:04
On 2010-02-23 10:40:17 -0800, David Rogoff said: > On 2010-02-23 10:28:17 -0800, Jolly Roger said: > >> In article <4b841bd0$0$19704$c36e2926(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >> David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2010-02-23 00:29:01 -0800, Barry Margolin said: >>> >>>> In article <4b838ef2$0$1304$c30e2946(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>> David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please - how can I tell Snow Leopard to not intercept any function >>>>> keys??? >>>> >>>> In Keyboard preferences, check the box "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as >>>> standard function keys". Could it be any more obvious? >>> Ok - I'm not crazy. I just went over to the Apple store. I see what you guys hae been talking about, but my Mac doesn't have it. I asked one of the guys there (who knew about Macs, PCs, Linux, etc). He said it's because I'm not using an Apple keyboard, so OS/X doesn't display that option. I'll have to check the Kinesis site (http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/freestyle_mac.htm) and see if they have some info/driver that will fix it. Thanks for everyone's help! David |