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From: Jean Smith on 23 Feb 2010 15:20 On 2010-02-23 02:30:26 -0600, Steven Fisher said: > In article <4b838ef2$0$1304$c30e2946(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > >> Please - how can I tell Snow Leopard to not intercept any function >> keys??? I've just switched to a Mac and still use WinXP and Linux and >> use emacs and xemacs on all three. I am used to assigning functions to >> the function keys (and shift-function, alt-function, etc), but OS/X is >> grabbing a bunch of them for stuff like volume control and Expos�. > > In Mac OS X 10.6: > 1. Go to the Keyboard preference pane. > 2. Check "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as standard function keys." > > You're done. :) > > > Steve Thank you for this thread. Now I know that F3 is the 'show all open windows' key. -- http://www.dccc.org | Hypocrisy Hall of Fame Cartoon: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/opinions/tomtoles/ Media Matters http://mediamatters.org/ http://northalabamahealthcareforall.org/
From: Jim Gibson on 23 Feb 2010 15:31 In article <4b8434e7$0$6685$c38e29c6(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-23 10:40:17 -0800, David Rogoff said: > > > On 2010-02-23 10:28:17 -0800, Jolly Roger said: > > > >> In article <4b841bd0$0$19704$c36e2926(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >> David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On 2010-02-23 00:29:01 -0800, Barry Margolin said: > >>> > >>>> In article <4b838ef2$0$1304$c30e2946(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>>> David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Please - how can I tell Snow Leopard to not intercept any function > >>>>> keys??? > >>>> > >>>> In Keyboard preferences, check the box "Use all F1, F2, etc. keys as > >>>> standard function keys". Could it be any more obvious? > >>> > > Ok - I'm not crazy. I just went over to the Apple store. I see what > you guys hae been talking about, but my Mac doesn't have it. I asked > one of the guys there (who knew about Macs, PCs, Linux, etc). He said > it's because I'm not using an Apple keyboard, so OS/X doesn't display > that option. I'll have to check the Kinesis site > (http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/freestyle_mac.htm) and see if they have > some info/driver that will fix it. Well I have an Apple keyboard and running 10.6.2, and I do not have that checkbox either. Perhaps it depends upon _which_ Apple keyboard you are using. I have a white plastic, corded Apple keyboard. It shows as "Apple Extended USB Keyboard" in the pop-up "Modifier Keys" dialog in the Keyboard preferences pane and "Apple Pro Keyboard, Version 4.30" in System Profiler (in the USB section). -- Jim Gibson
From: Paul Magnussen on 23 Feb 2010 16:43 I don't know how other people manage without QuicKeys. I've been using it for over a decade and I love it. The fact that it give me back Undo-Cut-Copy-Paste for F1-F2-F3-F4 alone is a big advantage (when did that disappear? System 8?) I have the same FKeys set up in all apps in which they're relevant. I doing know why hitting one key instead of two is so much easier, but it is. FWIW, this is my setup -- copied from Word 4(!): F5 New doc (or New Folder for the Finder) F6 Open� F7 Save F8 Print� F9 Find� F10 Bold F11 Italic F12 Underline F13 (Whatever) F14 (Whatever) F15 Get Info It's particularly powerful if you use it with AppleScript. Just my 2�-worth... Paul Magnussen
From: Steven Fisher on 23 Feb 2010 17:40 In article <4b8434e7$0$6685$c38e29c6(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > Ok - I'm not crazy. I just went over to the Apple store. I see what > you guys hae been talking about, but my Mac doesn't have it. I asked > one of the guys there (who knew about Macs, PCs, Linux, etc). He said > it's because I'm not using an Apple keyboard, so OS/X doesn't display > that option. I'll have to check the Kinesis site > (http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/freestyle_mac.htm) and see if they have > some info/driver that will fix it. That makes sense. Apple's keyboard trickery only happens on Apple keyboards. It's likely that your keyboard driver is separately interfering with the keystrokes. That becomes not a Mac OS X problem but a problem with your keyboard's software. You might be able to fix it by removing the keyboard driver entirely, but it might be sending non-standard key sequences that do nothing without the driver. (My Logitech did this.) Looks like a good keyboard, though. Let us know what they say. It's possible that even if they don't have a solution, someone here can point you to something. Steve
From: Mike Lane on 23 Feb 2010 18:19
nospam wrote on Feb 23, 2010: > In article <4b841bd0$0$19704$c36e2926(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David > Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote: > >> Where is this button of which you speak? I looked it up via google and >> saw old references to a Mouse & Keyboard pane. Snow Leopard (at least >> mine) doesn't have this. It has separate Keyboard and Mouse panes. Did >> Apple remove this in 10.6? > > it very definitely has it, in the keyboard tab in the keyboard > preference panel. My keyboard preference pane very definitely doesn't have it (OS 10.6.2) -- Mike Lane UK North Yorkshire email: mike_lane at mac dot com |