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From: Archimedes' Lever on 27 Apr 2010 18:46 On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:26:07 +0000 (UTC), don(a)manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote: > The propellant is close enough to entirely liquified hydrocarbon gases. Those propellants have not been used since the same time (or before) CFCs were culled out of the HVAC realm. It is most commonly a propane based propellant.
From: krw on 27 Apr 2010 19:23 On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:52:05 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard(a)aol.com> wrote: >On Apr 27, 9:25�am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...(a)On-My- >Web-Site.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:32:29 -0400, Spehro Pefhany >> >> >> >> >> >> <speffS...(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >> >On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:30:57 +0100, the renowned "ian field" >> ><gangprobing.al...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> >>"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >> >>news:4BD645B9.38D7F996(a)earthlink.net... >> >> >>> Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> >>>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:23:39 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> >>>> <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >>>> [snip] >> >> >>>> > �That's interesting. �One type of rat trap is a five gallon bucket of >> >>>> >soapy water with a pop can on a rod, over the water. �A little peanut >> >>>> >butter is used for bait. The vermin climbs up on the rod, then the can >> >>>> >to eat the bait. �It's weight makes the can turn on the rod which drops >> >>>> >the vermin into the water, where it drowns. �Politicians are just big >> >>>> >rats, they just need a different bait. >> >> >>>> That's an interesting gimmick. �Another seasonal problem... jack >> >>>> rabbits. �Any cute tricks to trap and/or kill? >> >> >>> � Scale it up to a 55 gallon drum and find the right bait? �The soapy >> >>> water keeps the vermin from climbing out of the container. �What do they >> >>> like to eat? >> >> >>Carrots. >> >> >What's up with that? Google sez young grass. >> >> >Best regards, >> >Spehro Pefhany >> >> That's what they're eating here... AND my succulents, a variety of >> plant, looking cactus-like... >> >> � � � �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succulent_plant >> >> which kills them. �Thus the need to return the pleasure :-) >> >> � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � ...Jim Thompson >> -- >> | James E.Thompson, CTO � � � � � � � � � � � � � �| � �mens � � | >> | Analog Innovations, Inc. � � � � � � � � � � � � | � � et � � �| >> | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems �| � �manus � �| >> | Phoenix, Arizona �85048 � �Skype: Contacts Only �| � � � � � � | >> | Voice:(480)460-2350 �Fax: Available upon request | �Brass Rat �| >> | E-mail Icon athttp://www.analog-innovations.com| � �1962 � � | >> >> � � � The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >I don't know about you guys, but "Succulent" sounds like a pretty good >name for the next SciFi channel original.... :) AlBore's Succulent Green?
From: Archimedes' Lever on 27 Apr 2010 22:44 On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:26:07 +0000 (UTC), don(a)manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote: >In <ilcdt5pmm48i7db08s6h1vfbmb3pm6iab3(a)4ax.com>, Archimedes' Lever wrote: >>On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:02:33 -0400, PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote: >> >>>On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:26:25 +0100, "ian field" >>><gangprobing.alien(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> >>>>"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >>>>message news:5kv8t5t1olbu8avqhonkdtrn15atkduils(a)4ax.com... >>>>> This wet (and cold) winter, due to global warming ;-) has left us here >>>>> in AZ over-run with gnats as the weather warms up. >>>>> >>>>> They're even getting into the house. >>>>> >>>>> Any convenient solutions? >>>> >>>>If a swarm forms indoors, suck them up with a dust buster vacuum cleaner - >>>>squirt some fly spray into the nozzle before switching off, >>> >>>Do NOT do that! Some vacuums use the air from the vacuum outlet to >>>cool the motor, and the motor has exposed brushes. >> >> Stupid, untrue claim. Such "air" is POST filter. >> >> Think of debris hitting the brushes, not just flies, idiot. THEN you >>will realize the stupidity of the claim you derived with your bent >>"common sense" guess of what takes place. ANY air that passes over ANY >>motor in ANY vacuum cleaner is POST filter. >> >>> The fact that 'fly spray' is usually flammable, >> >> More utter bullshit. MAYBE the propellant is a low flammability >>propane mix, but even that would be relatively safe. > ><SNIP from here> > > The propellant is close enough to entirely liquified hydrocarbon gases. >I would not call that a low flammability mix. Combine that with any >vapors from petroleum distillates, and that sounds risky to me. >Especially if the filter should have any holes that pass through droplets >of the liquid. > > - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com) Not even a pop. A twenty millisecond *puff*, at best for *each* "droplet", which is actually closer to a fine atomized mist particle, which would have to number in the hundreds of thousands to be effective.
From: Don Klipstein on 28 Apr 2010 01:13 In <e7qet558k6590rvgat24b1f77sc2q3tg2n(a)4ax.com>, Archimedes' Lever wrote: >On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:26:07 +0000 (UTC), don(a)manx.misty.com (Don >Klipstein) wrote: > >> The propellant is close enough to entirely liquified hydrocarbon gases. > > Those propellants have not been used since the same time (or before) >CFCs were culled out of the HVAC realm. It is most commonly a propane >based propellant. Propane is a hydrocarbon as opposed to being a CFC, and has experienced increased presence in "spray cans" as a result of restrictions against usage of CFCs. - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com)
From: Greegor on 28 Apr 2010 02:51
IF > If a swarm forms indoors, suck them up with a dust buster vacuum cleaner - IF > squirt some fly spray into the nozzle before switching off, PD > Do NOT do that! Some vacuums use the air from the vacuum outlet to PD > cool the motor, and the motor has exposed brushes. The fact that 'fly PD > spray' is usually flammable, and brushes spark, will help prove the PD > big bang theory quite effectively! Maybe they can perfect the vacuum cleaner jet engine. |